[Seattle] Fwd: Seattle CL People?

[Clint Moore]

I'm using sbcl, and waiting for llvm to build so I can build clasp.

For mobile, I've heard mixed opinions about mocl.  It got a lot of
attention when it was released, but I didn't, and still don't, have the
resources (money) to spend on an implementation that I can't try first.

If someone has it, I'd love to see it in action sometime.

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Jay Kint <bilbo at hobbit-hole.org> wrote:

> So what implementations of CL are people using? I've been toying with
> ClozireCL and SBCL, but I would love to do some Lisp on my mobile device.
>
> Jay
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> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Brandon Van Every <bvanevery at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>
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>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Clint Moore <clint at ivy.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm trying to remember why I last gave up on Haskell, other than the
>>> usual weirdness issues.  I think because, FP purity doesn't seem relevant
>>> to game simulations?  Keeping and modifying state seems to be what many
>>> games actually are.
>>>
>>>    Ok then.  Nevermind.
>>>
>>>
>> This is the core point worth discussing, as pure vs. impure and strict
>> vs. lazy  can definitely impact certain application areas.
>>
>> I did go around the block with OCaml back in the day.  My issues with it
>> were more on the practical implementation side.  It had a tedious C FFI
>> that wanted to steal bits of numerical representations for its own GC
>> benefit, and IIRC it didn't believe in single precision floats.  Those were
>> pretty important to the memory and processing constraints of games 10 years
>> ago, and probably still are now.
>>
>> F# came along and I've looked at that more than once.  I've always been
>> struck by how lackluster the interfacing to the DirectX universe is from
>> the .NET side of things though.  First MS pretty much made a turkey of
>> Managed DirectX.  Then they shipped XNA for several years, got a fair
>> amount of indie interest, and then abandoned it.  The leading DirectX /
>> .NET bridge is a third party library, SharpDX.  SlimDX was another one but
>> IIRC they're in remission now.  Going the .NET route, you still deal with
>> GC.  I looked at some of the F# benchmarks recently and I don't remember
>> them being all that great.
>>
>> Pretty sure I looked at Haskell benchmarks too recently.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brandon
>>
>>
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