State of common-lisp.net ?

Brian Taylor el.wubo at gmail.com
Sun Jun 16 21:15:23 UTC 2013


I'm a long time lurker and unknown in the community but I'd also love to
help out with this (time, technical expertise, money, whatever).


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Clint Moore <clint at ivy.io> wrote:

> Drew C <me at drewc.ca> writes:
> > Hey,
> >
> > Thank you for informing me on what is being said behind my back, that
> helps
> > me to decide on my future quite a bit :)
>
> I'm going to assume that this isn't directed at me, but if I'm wrong,
> please understand that, while that wasn't the intent, I apoligise.
>
> > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Luís Oliveira <luismbo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, in my opinion that is completely different from actually happened,
> > and given that I am now the only admin of a site that I do not use, and
> did
> > not 'decide' to 'migrate' but rather 'did not have the $foo it would take
> > to keep the box up another month', I am wondering what politricksian you
> > were speaking with that told you?
> >
> > Here is the situation :
> >
> > 1) I have never been an administrater of CL-NET till recently, just a
> > 'donation' of the box itself from 2007 or so until the near future.
> > 2) I was told that the business who runs the dedicated service are
> shutting
> > down, and the box will go with it.
> > 3) I asked for help, and others who knew apache. exim and mailman to
> please
> > help me because I do not know those things.
> > 4) I did not receive any help, and the box was going to be shutdown
> unless
> > I paid a lot to keep it up an extra month.
> > 5) I paid a lot, and asked for help again while I had to move things.
> > 6) I tried to moved things over gradually, but the people who do use it
> for
> > releases of their software and needed it up, so I paid twice as much to
> > leave it up for an extra week or so.
> > 7) Now I hear complaints and political talk, yet nobody volunteers to
> take
> > over, and apparently there is politricks involved.
> > 8) I still ask for help, and will here again : "I would like some help
> > because I do not use this site and those who do use it may know a bit
> more
> > about that they need"
> >
> >
> > The issue at hand is therefore political rather than technical.
> >
> > Can you please inform me of the politricks? The reason that I had to move
> > from mailman to mlmmj is because I know mlmmj technically, and I know
> > postmodern and postgresql more then I know exim + whatever. So, having
> been
> > the one that 'started the issue' for technical reasons,. would like to
> know
> > the politicians who are in competition with me for common-lisp.net, and
> if
> > they would like to take over?
> >
> > I wish that political things were not as important to Common Lispers as
> > simply having things running, but if folks do not want what I did my best
> > to keep up, then please contact me about taking over. If you do not want
> to
> > take over but simply want something that is not there yet, clo-devel is a
> > good place to ask I guess.
>
>
> That's quite a different situation.
>
>   I would like to volunteer to maintain and pay for keeping
> common-lisp.net around into the forseeable future, though no one in the
> community knows me which might or might not be an issue.
>
>   If I may be so bold as to ask for access to the backups or tarball of
> the machine, I could bring up a box with everything working and submit
> it for review to whomever, and if it's acceptable we could simply point
> common-lisp.net to it.
>
>
>
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