<div dir="ltr">I'm a long time lurker and unknown in the community but I'd also love to help out with this (time, technical expertise, money, whatever).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Clint Moore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clint@ivy.io" target="_blank">clint@ivy.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">Drew C <<a href="mailto:me@drewc.ca">me@drewc.ca</a>> writes:<br>
> Hey,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for informing me on what is being said behind my back, that helps<br>
> me to decide on my future quite a bit :)<br>
<br>
</div>I'm going to assume that this isn't directed at me, but if I'm wrong,<br>
please understand that, while that wasn't the intent, I apoligise.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Luís Oliveira <<a href="mailto:luismbo@gmail.com">luismbo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
</div><div><div class="h5">> Well, in my opinion that is completely different from actually happened,<br>
> and given that I am now the only admin of a site that I do not use, and did<br>
> not 'decide' to 'migrate' but rather 'did not have the $foo it would take<br>
> to keep the box up another month', I am wondering what politricksian you<br>
> were speaking with that told you?<br>
><br>
> Here is the situation :<br>
><br>
> 1) I have never been an administrater of CL-NET till recently, just a<br>
> 'donation' of the box itself from 2007 or so until the near future.<br>
> 2) I was told that the business who runs the dedicated service are shutting<br>
> down, and the box will go with it.<br>
> 3) I asked for help, and others who knew apache. exim and mailman to please<br>
> help me because I do not know those things.<br>
> 4) I did not receive any help, and the box was going to be shutdown unless<br>
> I paid a lot to keep it up an extra month.<br>
> 5) I paid a lot, and asked for help again while I had to move things.<br>
> 6) I tried to moved things over gradually, but the people who do use it for<br>
> releases of their software and needed it up, so I paid twice as much to<br>
> leave it up for an extra week or so.<br>
> 7) Now I hear complaints and political talk, yet nobody volunteers to take<br>
> over, and apparently there is politricks involved.<br>
> 8) I still ask for help, and will here again : "I would like some help<br>
> because I do not use this site and those who do use it may know a bit more<br>
> about that they need"<br>
><br>
><br>
> The issue at hand is therefore political rather than technical.<br>
><br>
> Can you please inform me of the politricks? The reason that I had to move<br>
> from mailman to mlmmj is because I know mlmmj technically, and I know<br>
> postmodern and postgresql more then I know exim + whatever. So, having been<br>
> the one that 'started the issue' for technical reasons,. would like to know<br>
> the politicians who are in competition with me for <a href="http://common-lisp.net" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a>, and if<br>
> they would like to take over?<br>
><br>
> I wish that political things were not as important to Common Lispers as<br>
> simply having things running, but if folks do not want what I did my best<br>
> to keep up, then please contact me about taking over. If you do not want to<br>
> take over but simply want something that is not there yet, clo-devel is a<br>
> good place to ask I guess.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div>That's quite a different situation.<br>
<br>
I would like to volunteer to maintain and pay for keeping<br>
<a href="http://common-lisp.net" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a> around into the forseeable future, though no one in the<br>
community knows me which might or might not be an issue.<br>
<br>
If I may be so bold as to ask for access to the backups or tarball of<br>
the machine, I could bring up a box with everything working and submit<br>
it for review to whomever, and if it's acceptable we could simply point<br>
<a href="http://common-lisp.net" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a> to it.<br>
<br>
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