[Bese-devel] Re: ucw-extras

Nathan Bird nathan at acceleration.net
Fri Mar 3 22:45:35 UTC 2006


I was talking to one of my friends last night--he is a big perl fan and has
been using the latest over there Catalyst http://catalyst.perl.org/. I know
little about this framework (going to go read more), but one of the points
he described to me is an effort by that community to make it very modular.

I guess one of the questions is: what do you consider to be core, and what
possibly is a module on top of/along side that? I would count YACML as a
module (it is).

As I was talking to Marco in #ucw the other week, we use the application
server side of UCW without using YACML to generate XHTML. This hasn't been
too bad because it is fairly well setup already! 

There are maybe a few rough corners. E.g. when the server errs, what do you
render the error with? Last time I looked there was a somewhat uneven mix of
functions, depending upon where the error occurs and how much information
was availble. How to "Fix it all up"? Eh, I don't know.

Basically: Another vote (to keep moving) towards good modules, well defined
generic functions... extensibility! (Three cheers)

Nathan


-----Original Message-----
From: bese-devel-bounces at common-lisp.net
[mailto:bese-devel-bounces at common-lisp.net] On Behalf Of Waldo Rubinstein
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:42 PM
To: henrik hjelte
Cc: bese-devel at common-lisp.net
Subject: Re: [Bese-devel] Re: ucw-extras

Henrik,

This is great.

I wanted to comment on something, that I wish for no one to take it  
negatively. As a matter of fact, I should have mentioned it a few  
days ago on your original post.

I come from the rubyonrails community and one place I found useful  
for code snippets, which could be or were incorporated to the rails'  
code, was http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/tags/rails. It's simple,  
but makes it easier for "newcommers" to not only look at snippets,  
but allows for more documentation to be included since it's somewhat  
informal in the process.

Or even the concept of "plugins", which anyone can download and  
incorporate into their core rails framework. Maybe your idea could  
turn into one were people would contribute plugins to ucw, instead of  
just sparse code (http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Plugins)

I am personally still digesting the whole ucw framework and hope to  
be able to develop functional "plugins" to share with the community.  
Hopefully in the not so distant future.

Thanks,
Waldo

On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:24 AM, henrik hjelte wrote:

> I've now created a first version of ucw-extras.
>
> See http://common-lisp.net/project/ucw-extras
>
> The initial contents are some dojo code.
> It's not huge, but it's a start..
>
>> i can setup another world writtable darcs repo on uncommon-web.com if
>> you think it'd be a good idea (or even multiple world writable darcs
>> repo: ucw-extras/forms, ucw-extras/docs, ucw-extras/presentations,
>> etc).
>>
> The repository is a now at /project/ucw-extras/repos/ucw-extras
> It would be great if you could make it world-writable! Move it or link
> it or whatever it takes.
>
> /Henrik Hjelte
>
>
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