[asdf-devel] Alternate default lisp system location
sionescu at cddr.org
Wed Mar 12 14:53:21 UTC 2014
On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 09:20 -0500, Robert P. Goldman wrote:
> Stelian Ionescu wrote:
> > 1) install Quicklisp, it's easy and painless
> > 2) put your projects in $QUICKLISPDIR/local-projects/
> > done.
> I get you, but I don't like it.
> That's like saying "I want to make my first C program." "OK, let me
> teach you how to use apt-get."
Yes, and it's a very good idea to do just that because either you want
to use ASDF to load other libraries in which case you need QL, or a
simple file will suffice.
> Maybe this is the right answer, but it's not a path to getting a minimal
> understandable config for ASDF. All that's happening here is that
> Quicklisp is hiding the complexity.
Which is very good. People that write .asd files aren't beginners.
> I am reminded of Clojure: "I want to write my first Clojure program,
> what do I do?" "First learn how Leiningen works."
Want to learn node.js ? Use npm.
Want to learn ruby ? Use gems.
Want to learn python ? Use pip.
> I am happy for people to tell novices to start with Quicklisp, don't get
> me wrong. And if that's their path into programming, instead of
> starting through ASDF, I'm fine with that, too. But it doesn't remove
> the need for a trivial path into ASDF.
> Your email does suggest that ~/asdf-local-projects/ might be a suitable
> Similarly, it's unacceptable to have as the first instruction in our
> manual "go off, find and install a script that configures our tool."
> That means that we have failed to provide an easily configurable tool.
What you want to provide is not an easily configurable tool, but an
Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix
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