[toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 35, Issue 5

Tue Nov 16 20:05:05 UTC 2010

Thanks I will try it!

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From: Leo Zovic [mailto:leo.zovic at gmail.com] 
Sent: 2010, November, 16 3:03 PM
To: toronto-lisp at common-lisp.net
Subject: Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 35, Issue 5

Not sure if it works the same on Lispworks, but in SBCL + Emacs/SLIME,
you can target your library archive directly with ASDF instead of
relying on the automated download.

In other words

(require 'asdf)
(require 'asdf-install)
(asdf-install:install "/path/to/your/cl-ppcre.tar.gz")

Obviously, you'll want to use the windows file path in place of that
one. As long as the tarball has that asd file in it, it should work.

Now, for this library, you should just be able to do

(asdf-install:install 'cl-ppcre)

instead of getting your own download (this is probably what is meant by
"the usual way"). cl-ppcre is well maintained, so ASDF should be able to
handle the download for you unless the CLiki is down for whatever
reason.

-Leo

PS. I remember the first few weeks of learning Lisp. It was goddamn
infuriating. If it's any consolation at all, the feeling passes once you
get your bearings. 

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	  1. asdf / lispworks 6.0.1 personal edition question
	     (Matijaca, Aleksandar)
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	     (Brian Connoy)

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	Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:07:43 -0500
	From: "Matijaca, Aleksandar" <Aleksandar.Matijaca at rbccm.com>
	Subject: [toronto-lisp] asdf / lispworks 6.0.1 personal edition
	       question
	To: <toronto-lisp at common-lisp.net>
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	Ok, so I downloaded the latest 6.0.1 Lispworks for windows, and
I do not
	see anywhere in
	the gui even a mention of ASDF - there is no "button"...  On
their web
	site, they state that
	they have ASDF integration in IDE - I don't see it.  The link in
their
	web pages takes me here:

	To use ASDF in the LispWorks IDE:

	1.      Load ASDF and some ASDF system definitions in the usual
ASDF
	way.
	2.      Load the file (example-file
"misc/asdf-integration.lisp") .

	>From the above: Load ASDF and some ASDF system definitions in
the usual
	ASDF way. (WTF, I
	don't know what the "usual way" is...?)  What is the usual
way????

	Ok, so I ran the second line called (example-file ......  And I
assume
	that does something also,
	although they don't say what....  Why is it called
example-file???  What
	is example-file?  What
	kind of a function is that?

	Ok, so, I also downloaded cl-ppcre-2.0.3 (I can't use quicklisp
network
	type installations
	because I am at a bank, and they have serious firewalls
preventing stuff
	just like this).  So,
	I downloaded this package, and I unzipped it, and I did notice
that
	there is amongst other
	files a cl-ppcre.asd file (probably important).  So, this is
what I
	have:

	LispWorks 6.0.1 which is supposed to be already ASDF ready on
Windows

	Unzipped cl-ppcre-2.0.3

	So, assuming that the whole thing is ASDF ready, how do I load
up and
	"install"
	cl-ppcre-2.0.3

	Why is this so friggin' frustrating - I just wanna code in Lisp,
not
	fight Lispworks and
	ASDF...

	Thanks, Alex.

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	Message: 2
	Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:33:09 +0000
	From: Brian Connoy <BConnoy at morrisonhershfield.com>
	Subject: Re: [toronto-lisp] asdf / lispworks 6.0.1 personal
edition
	       question
	To: "toronto-lisp at common-lisp.net"
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	Here's a few quick replies.  I don't believe the personal
edition permits the use of an init file, so for now you'll be doing
things 'the hard way'.

	*         Click the File->Load menu on the main LispWorks menu
(or podium) and browse respectively to your "asdf.lisp" and
"cl-ppcre.asd" files.

	*         Load the asdf-integration as before.

	*         On the menu/podium again, click the icon for the
"System Browser".

	*         The ASDF integration is not obvious.  Look along the
right hand side of the System Browser for the three buttons, of a
checkmark, an X and some question marks.  Click the question marks and
you will be able to select from the available ASDF and LW systems.

	I think there's a glitch in the System Browser.  If you close
and reopen it, you'll probably see all loaded Systems displayed.  You
should be good to go as far as loading CL-PPCRE (although your next
stumbling block might be understanding Packages).

	As to the choice of EXAMPLE-FILE as a name, my guess is that the
ASDF integration provided by LW was originally a chargeable support
incident (a couple of mine are in the examples too) and that this
function is just a general convenience for loading examples.

	BC

	p.s.    Your feelings about fighting LispWorks are understood.
I had a heck of a time getting started, mainly because I had never
travelled in the 'Land of Lisp'!

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