[toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 35, Issue 5

Tue Nov 16 20:03:08 UTC 2010

Not sure if it works the same on Lispworks, but in SBCL + Emacs/SLIME, you
can target your library archive directly with ASDF instead of relying on the
automated download.

In other words

(require 'asdf)
(require 'asdf-install)
(asdf-install:install "/path/to/your/cl-ppcre.tar.gz")

Obviously, you'll want to use the windows file path in place of that one. As
long as the tarball has that asd file in it, it should work.

Now, for this library, you should just be able to do

(asdf-install:install 'cl-ppcre)

instead of getting your own download (this is probably what is meant by "the
usual way"). cl-ppcre is well maintained, so ASDF should be able to handle
the download for you unless the CLiki is down for whatever reason.

-Leo

PS. I remember the first few weeks of learning Lisp. It was goddamn
infuriating. If it's any consolation at all, the feeling passes once you get
your bearings.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <toronto-lisp-request at common-lisp.net>wrote:

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>   1. asdf / lispworks 6.0.1 personal edition question
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> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:07:43 -0500
> From: "Matijaca, Aleksandar" <Aleksandar.Matijaca at rbccm.com>
> Subject: [toronto-lisp] asdf / lispworks 6.0.1 personal edition
>        question
> To: <toronto-lisp at common-lisp.net>
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> Ok, so I downloaded the latest 6.0.1 Lispworks for windows, and I do not
> see anywhere in
> the gui even a mention of ASDF - there is no "button"...  On their web
> site, they state that
> they have ASDF integration in IDE - I don't see it.  The link in their
> web pages takes me here:
>
> To use ASDF in the LispWorks IDE:
>
> 1.      Load ASDF and some ASDF system definitions in the usual ASDF
> way.
> 2.      Load the file (example-file "misc/asdf-integration.lisp") .
>
>
> >From the above: Load ASDF and some ASDF system definitions in the usual
> ASDF way. (WTF, I
> don't know what the "usual way" is...?)  What is the usual way????
>
> Ok, so I ran the second line called (example-file ......  And I assume
> that does something also,
> although they don't say what....  Why is it called example-file???  What
> is example-file?  What
> kind of a function is that?
>
> Ok, so, I also downloaded cl-ppcre-2.0.3 (I can't use quicklisp network
> type installations
> because I am at a bank, and they have serious firewalls preventing stuff
> just like this).  So,
> I downloaded this package, and I unzipped it, and I did notice that
> there is amongst other
> files a cl-ppcre.asd file (probably important).  So, this is what I
> have:
>
> LispWorks 6.0.1 which is supposed to be already ASDF ready on Windows
>
> Unzipped cl-ppcre-2.0.3
>
> So, assuming that the whole thing is ASDF ready, how do I load up and
> "install"
> cl-ppcre-2.0.3
>
> Why is this so friggin' frustrating - I just wanna code in Lisp, not
> fight Lispworks and
> ASDF...
>
> Thanks, Alex.
>
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> From: Brian Connoy <BConnoy at morrisonhershfield.com>
> Subject: Re: [toronto-lisp] asdf / lispworks 6.0.1 personal edition
>        question
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> Here's a few quick replies.  I don't believe the personal edition permits
> the use of an init file, so for now you'll be doing things 'the hard way'.
>
>
> *         Click the File->Load menu on the main LispWorks menu (or podium)
> and browse respectively to your "asdf.lisp" and "cl-ppcre.asd" files.
>
> *         Load the asdf-integration as before.
>
> *         On the menu/podium again, click the icon for the "System
> Browser".
>
> *         The ASDF integration is not obvious.  Look along the right hand
> side of the System Browser for the three buttons, of a checkmark, an X and
> some question marks.  Click the question marks and you will be able to
> select from the available ASDF and LW systems.
>
> I think there's a glitch in the System Browser.  If you close and reopen
> it, you'll probably see all loaded Systems displayed.  You should be good to
> go as far as loading CL-PPCRE (although your next stumbling block might be
> understanding Packages).
>
> As to the choice of EXAMPLE-FILE as a name, my guess is that the ASDF
> integration provided by LW was originally a chargeable support incident (a
> couple of mine are in the examples too) and that this function is just a
> general convenience for loading examples.
>
> BC
>
> p.s.    Your feelings about fighting LispWorks are understood.  I had a
> heck of a time getting started, mainly because I had never travelled in the
> 'Land of Lisp'!
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