[slime] swank-loader could use ASDF (#65)

[howard]

Could you guys all take me off your address list


Regards
Howard


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From: Faré <fahree at gmail.com> 
Date:  
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut at gmail.com> 
Cc: João Távora <joaotavora at gmail.com>,slime-devel <slime-devel at common-lisp.net> 
Subject: Re: [slime] swank-loader could use ASDF (#65) 
 
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Helmut Eller <eller.helmut at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 08 2014, Faré wrote:
>
>>> As I said in a another message, I had experiences like this:
>>>
>>>  1. (asdf:load-system foo),
>>>  2. then had some load-time problem,
>>>  3. cleaned out the cache,
>>>  4. and magically (asdf:load-system foo) worked.
>>>
>> Are these experiences recent?
>
> Maybe not.  But I still clean the cache whenever there's the slightest
> suspicion that ASDF could be related to a problem.  I'm sure you can fix
> bugs once identified, but fixing trust is another issue.
>
Actually, before ASDF2 (mid 2010), no one could "fix bugs once
identified": there was no single person in charge, no way to push bug
fixes, a lot of bugs, and a good reason not to trust ASDF. But the
situation changed completely 3-4 years ago when I took over, made asdf
upgradable so that bug fixes could be pushed, and started fixing the
bugs and pushing the fixes. ASDF is a completely different beast these
days, and well tested thanks to Robert Goldman, Anton Vodonosov, Dave
Cooper and more. If your bad experiences were with versions of ASDF
older than that, I invite you to reconsider this trust issue.

—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it.
                — Gandhi

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