[slime-devel] SLIME talk at the Emacs Conference

[Luke Gorrie]

Howdy all,

Here's a recording of the Emacs conference talk that I gave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZDWJfB9XY4

Cool that about half the people in the room had actually used SLIME
themselves.


On 7 March 2013 11:28, Helmut Eller <eller.helmut at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 06 2013, Luke Gorrie wrote:
>
> > Howdy!
> >
> > Long time no chat :-)
> >
> > I will give a talk at the Emacs Conference (emacsconf.org, London March
> 31)
> > called "How to write an Emacs-based IDE like SLIME".
> >
> > The idea is to demo SLIME, explain how its development works, and give
> some
> > encouragement and practical tips to people who might want to build
> something
> > similar for other languages.
>
> FUEL[1] and Geiser[2] (both by the same person) are in many ways
> inspired by SLIME.  Both seem to communicate on top of comint and seem
> to work quite well.  I find that surprising given my general disdain for
> comint-mode.  CEDET, now part of Emacs, apparently tries to analyze
> other languages in Emacs Lisp directly.  It could be interesting to
> compare those with SLIME and figure out which aspects of the different
> approaches should be reused.
>
> It might be worth to point out that SLIME's debugger depends on the CL
> condition system and this can't be easily ported to languages that use
> Java-like exceptions.  E.g. the Clojure backend for SLIME doesn't and
> can't support "debug-on-error".
>
> > If you have some ideas please fire away :) particularly about things I
> > might easily overlook being as my SLIME know-how is about 10 years
> > old!
>
> Robert Brown wrote swank-crew[3] which can distribute work to multiple
> servers and remote debugging allegedly works too.  I haven't tried it
> out myself yet, because it requires threads, but it's certainly a
> interesting direction to go.
>
> There are some things in SLIME that still don't work perfectly, like
> interruptible I/O or clean shutdown.  I don't have any wisdom to offer
> regarding those issues, other than that those things are bloody hard to
> do.
>
> Helmut
>
> [1] https://github.com/emacsmirror/factor-mode
> [2] http://www.nongnu.org/geiser/
> [3] https://github.com/brown/swank-crew
>
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