Call for Interest: Clojure (or Lisp?) Code Camp with BLM focus

[Andy Peterson]

https://github.com/byulparan/cl-collider
"A SuperCollider <http://supercollider.github.io/> client for CommonLisp
<https://www.common-lisp.net/>"

Never tried this but I've been following it for a few years and it is
actively under development.

Andy

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 13:57, Ken Tilton <kentilton at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the seconding motion! But part of the plan is high
> accessibility, and low cost. I just noticed the pricing on OpusModus, bit
> of a showstopper there.
>
> We would use Clojure Overtone https://overtone.github.io/ but that sits
> atop Supercollider, not sure if that would make installation a PITA.
> Ideally we would have sth built atop Web Audio, but then we really are
> super low-level. I think! Have to look into that.
>
> We *would* want to hook the students with solid music before taking them
> down to the basics, so existing effects etc would be great to have, but
> again, this is about coding in general, not music generation. That is just
> the hook.
>
> Thx again! If some campers get more turned on by music than coding that
> will be a great next step.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:43 PM dbm at refined-audiometrics.com <
> dbm at refined-audiometrics.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, I was also going to suggest OpusModus. I see little purpose in
>> reinventing any portion of what they have done.
>>
>> I have been a user for about 2 years now. It seems to be the defacto
>> replacement for an earlier product done in Lispworks, from Italy, called
>> Symbolic Composer. OpusModus is very good, and getting better every day.
>> They just implemented live MIDI recording in the latest version.
>>
>> - David McClain
>> Refined Audiometrics Laboratory, LLC
>> Tucson, AZ, USA
>> refined-audiometrics.com
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Ken Tilton <kentilton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds great, I will keep it in mind if we loosen the web/mobile-native
>> constraint. Or maybe as a direction for campers who take off -- no need
>> then to fret over platform, power will matter.
>>
>> Thx!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:54 AM Stonewall Ballard <stoney at sb.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Are you familiar with Opusmodus?
>>> <http://opusmodus.com>
>>>
>>> It’s written in Clozure ccl, and besides providing an incredible array
>>> of music manipulation functions and structures, it’s got a beautiful window
>>> system. Mac only.
>>>
>>> Your idea of using music as a hook to learn Lisp sounds plausible. Good
>>> Luck!
>>>
>>>  - Stoney
>>> ————
>>> Stonewall Ballard    stoney at sb.org   http://stoney.sb.org
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 6 at 8:15:31 AM, Ken Tilton (kentilton at gmail.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> So I got to thinking about creating an approachable pathway to IT
>>> careers for anyone really, but in the spirit of today one focused on
>>> creating career opportunities for African Americans.
>>>
>>> The idea would be a code camp developed around algorithmic generation of
>>> music. I know nothing about music theory, except that there is prolly
>>> enough there to introduce most if not all fundamental programming concepts.
>>>
>>> For those campers that accidentally get hooked on programming itself,
>>> which is how many of us ended up in IT careers, away they go!
>>>
>>> The idea is to:
>>>
>>>    - use music as the hook;
>>>    - defer as long as possible the annoying things about programming (I
>>>    am looking at you, node.js);
>>>    - part of that ^^^ will be using a powerful language with the
>>>    parentheses in the right place, prolly ClojureScript since that could run
>>>    where JS runs;
>>>    - keep programming as the focus, as tempting as the music will be.
>>>    Sonic Pi comes with all sorts of built-in sound capabilities, but we want
>>>    to *develop* those in the code camp;
>>>    - tailor the program to specific musical genres, to maximize the
>>>    musical hook.
>>>
>>> I am dropping this here since I know many Common Lispers have a strong
>>> musical bent. My questions are:
>>>
>>>    - Could we use CL instead? I do think this almost has to be a web
>>>    app, perhaps even mobile. Hmmm, we *could* CL-ify CLJS with
>>>    sufficent clever macrology.
>>>    - What do you think? Can a solid programming fundamentals course be
>>>    expressed in music theory? Hint: HTTP is not a programming fundamental.
>>>    - If there is any interest, what would be a good place for an
>>>    ongoing discussion? Google groups?
>>>
>>> Ideas, comments, suggestions all welcome.
>>>
>>> -hk
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Kenneth Tilton
>> http://tiltontec.com/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Kenneth Tilton
> http://tiltontec.com/
>
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