[noctool-devel] CSS is good, right?

Jim Prewett download at hpc.unm.edu
Tue Jun 17 13:36:09 UTC 2008


>  >I've never been much of a web person and am certainly not up on the latest 
>  >trends :P
> 
>         I know the feeling.

Glad its not just me :P :)  I was a sys-admin during the "dot com boom".  
Those web guys only made my life hell ;P  They seemed to think their 
infinite loops were the fault of my server - the jerks :P ;)

>         I've never been convinced that web pages are the best way to
> interact with system monitoring data, except for the most trivial of
> cases.  

I think thats true in a lot of cases for sure.  BUT, my boss *LOVES* his 
Ganglia pages, etc.  If I can give him a decent web interface, he's /much/ 
more likely to continue funding my work on Noctool :)

What I've been thinking would be really slick would be an Emacs-based 
"Noctool Console" (if you will)  I've only done the most rudimentary of 
hacking with Emacs, but SLIME sure is sweet and I've seen some UI stuff 
thats not too bad... Then the web would be a view for more userly types 
and THE Console would be more for admin types.  But thats a dream... 

> What I'd *really* like is something like this (viewable in
> Safari, Firefox or Opera - requires a plugin for IE):
> 
>     http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/Window/index.svg

THAT'S SEXY!  I'm gonna show that to our "web guy". :)

> I've been banging away at an SVG library for CL entirely because of
> this one URL.

Awesome!  I was thinking SVG would be nice for graph plots (the things 
we're currently exporting to GIF) as well simply because, well, they're 
scalable :)  I wouldn't have to re-render the image for every size I might 
want to display it at, the network bandwidth usage is also not bad when 
you use gzip compressed SVG. :)



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