[mcclim-devel] Errors installing McClim

Peter Busser busserpeter at gmail.com
Mon Jul 12 21:39:08 UTC 2010


Oliver,

Well, my experience with creating lots of Common Lisp .deb packages on
Debian shows that problems in most cases are caused by incorrect
placement of the .asd file(s) followed by missing .lisp files or other
missing stuff. Sometimes the .asd file tries to be smart by doing
things that it shouldn't do (like i.e. compile C source code). The
most time consuming part for me is to find the right version of
libraries. Especially for larger programs with lots of dependencies
like Closure, the McCLIM based web browser. Somehow I never got it to
do anything useful.

I think that once people seriously try to understand what kind of
problems the Debian (and other packagers) try to solve, that they will
understand that it is only logical to choose something like CLC. I can
only hope that such an understanding leads to more constructive ideas
than just dismissing it by saying that it is evil.

Groetjes,
Peter.

2010/7/12 Oliver Uvman <oliver.uvman at gmail.com>:
> So in summay clc works really well when it works, but when it doesn't
> it is very difficult to ascertain where the fault lies. Is it still
> actively developed, and if so do the developers know that this is
> people's opinion about their system? They can't do anything about it
> if we don't inform them.
>
> /Oliver
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 23:29, Robert Uhl <eadmund42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andy Hefner <ahefner at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> The advice on the wiki is a bit out of date.  These days, nine out of
>>> ten lispers agree that neither asdf-install, common-lisp-controller,
>>> nor Debian/Ubuntu-packaged lisp implementations should be used by
>>> anyone, at any time, for any purpose.
>>
>> Ummm, common-lisp-controller is the reason that I was able to build my
>> mcclim packages for Fedora.  It works _really_ well.
>>
>> It easily enables Lisp source to be installed by root, with FASLs cached
>> neatly, and allows multiple Common Lisp implementations to share the
>> same source.
>>
>> It's great.
>>
>> --
>> Robert A. Uhl
>>
>
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