[mac-lisp-ide] Re: ideas and issues

[Brian Mastenbrook]

On Feb 1, 2004, at 11:58 AM, mikel evins wrote:

> It also seems like we're not that far from having a good start on a 
> CLIM-based IDE if we can get the Listener and Goatee up and limping.

This sounds great! Right now it looks like Goatee is kind of a 
bare-minimum solution; since gilberth is involved in hemlock too, the 
idea was that hemlock would eventually take over as the the McCLIM 
editor, leaving goatee for line editing.

If in fact Hemlock becomes the best solution for a native Cocoa editor, 
is there any reason why we can't simply integrate it into a Cocoa 
McCLIM? That sounds like a way that the two projects could share a 
significant base of code.

> I posted separately that I've packaged a 0.1 release of Clotho. Seems 
> like that's two places to start. I don't see any reason we can't 
> pursue both (and others as well) until it becomes clear that either 
> one is a better idea than the other, or that each has its own use.

I don't see any reason why there wouldn't be a place for the two to 
coexist: CLIM for people working on a good (and quite possibly 
platform-independent) CLIM-model IDE, and Cocoa for those people who 
want a very Cocoa-ish development environment. There's no law against 
code sharing when we can :-)

Hopefully even a native Cocoa IDE will be able to load CLIM too, so 
people can use it for writing CLIM programs.
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Brian Mastenbrook
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http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/