[elephant-devel] Berkeley DB 4.4.20

[Daniel Salama]

Robert/team,

I know I've discussed this in the past, but somehow, your comment has  
awaken my concern as to the future of Elephant and Sleepycat. I know  
you've mentioned that you are using Elephant mainly (or only) for the  
relational backend. However, being that the BDB backend is about 5  
times faster than the relational one, I was concentrating on using  
the BDB backend. Am I going down the wrong or uncertain path? Will  
future enhancements to Elephant be focused on the relational backend  
first? I wish I could say that I can volunteer to help enhance  
Elephant in anyway, but I just don't have the qualifications; at  
least not yet. I know there are others involved in the project, but  
not really familiar with everyone's contributions.

The one thing I know is that, this, being an open-source project, is  
sort of like a side task for the current team members. After all, we  
"all" have to work to put food on the table. So, it's not that I'm  
asking the dedication of a team of developers such as one assigned by  
a company offering commercial licenses.

Through the documents I've read, I think I came across one that said  
that there are about 15 people (entities) using Elephant. I don't  
know if those are just people known to use it and then many others  
that you just don't know about, or that it really is a low profile  
project. I can only comment/compare to CL-SQL, which is the other  
project I've come across more often. I don't use it but do see more  
traffic related to that project than to Elephant. From what I know,  
the two projects have different schools of thought and philosophies  
as to how persistence is implemented and managed. I can say that I  
like the way things are done in Elephant. They just seem so natural  
and elegant.

It is for that reason that I'm concerned with my using of Elephant  
and BDB backend. I plan to migrate a large project over from Ruby on  
Rails to the UCW/Elephant framework. I just don't want to shoot  
myself on the foot down the road when my clients are using the system  
or, hopefully won't be the case, obsoleted framework.

Thanks again for such great work.

- Daniel

On Aug 13, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Robert L. Read wrote:

> On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 02:27 -0400, Daniel Salama wrote:
>> Being that BDB is on version 4.4.20 and there seem to be some
>> important fixes since the 4.3 version, does Elephant support this
>> version? Is there any plans to support it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel
>
> I don't have any plans to work on this in the near future.  The  
> Oracle purchase of
> Sleepycat clouds the issue slightly; personally I use the  
> relational backend for all my
> work.
>
> I would estimate the work involved here at several hours to several  
> days --- I really
> have not investigated it deeply except to note that it doesn't seem  
> to work with 4.4.
>
> Of course, if someone wants to get it working, I would be both  
> grateful and as
> helpful as I could be.
>
>
>
>
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