[Ecls-list] [maintainership]

Sat Feb 21 06:49:54 UTC 2015

Hello,

it's saturday and nobody has risen concerns about new maintainership, so
I assume it's ok with you all - thanks for putting trust on unknown
person.

For start I need admin privileges on SF, and on wikispaces (which also
requires subscription renewal). My user name on both portals is
dkochmanski.

Best regards,
Daniel

Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll writes:

> Dear all,
>
> first of all thanks for taking me into consideration and for volunteering
> to continue the project. I was overoptimistic in assuming that I could even
> continue fixing bugs or reading the mailing list at all. I therefore
> welcome any initiative to have a stable team that works on bugs and keeps
> the  project alive and useful. Just let me know what you need, such as
> adding you to the Admin list and perhaps updating or giving you access to
> other resources.
>
> Since I do not have much time to read these threads, I would appreciate a
> warning when the issue has been settled by the community, with a list of
> steps that I should take.
>
> Best regards
>
> Juanjo
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM, ZhanLin Shang <shangzhanlin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>> I agree with your opinion, I know some C (I've been playing around with C
>> for 5 years but not embedding) and some CL (which is the language I use the
>> most), I will try to help if I can.
>> Best,
>> Z.Shang
>>
>> On Sun Feb 15 2015 at 8:56:01 PM Daniel Kochmański <
>> jackdaniel at hellsgate.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> most of you have probably noticed, that ECL is unmaintained for quite a
>>> while. Some spontaneous attempts are made, like submitting a patch, or
>>> answering question - what is great, but insufficient. Many important bug
>>> fixes last on git head, a few potential improvements wait in patch
>>> queue. The other words - ECL starts to smell funny, what's a shame,
>>> since it's a great project.
>>>
>>> I'm writing to mailing list to volunteer myself as projects
>>> maintainer. I'm sure there are people better suited for such role, but
>>> since nobody asks for it, I do. Please reply to this message with
>>> protests or support, if any. I'm full time embedded engineer with strong
>>> C background, and solely speaking - CL new-be. Since I'm full time
>>> worker, I can spare only a few hours a week, but I'm sure it would be
>>> sufficient for start.
>>>
>>> Short plan of things, which have to be done (any help welcome) - in
>>> descendent order:
>>>
>>> ** Roll out a new release
>>>    Many bug-fixes lie on git, and are absent on current release. It is
>>>    really important to make a new release.
>>>
>>>    1. Introduce new branching model
>>>       http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
>>>
>>>    2. Move development to gitorious
>>>       Split separate projects into separate repositories (libffi, gmp)
>>>
>>>    3. Patch submissions
>>>       I think it would be plausible to move patch submissions to
>>>       mailing list, so they can be commented.
>>>
>>> ** Refresh
>>>    1. Website
>>>       I find it counter-intuitive and hard to navigate. Sitemap should
>>>       be rearranged, and maybe even moved from SF.
>>>
>>>    2. Materials
>>>       Wiki's subscription is ended now. It should be brought back.
>>>       Usage examples should be easier to find and study.
>>>       It would be nice to have tutorials describing, how to install and
>>>       embed ECL in project.
>>>
>>>    3. Patch/feature/bug queues (as started by Arto)
>>>       Decide, which patches need to be merged into ECL, reject the
>>>       rest. Same with feature requests - if something is beyond our
>>>       reach for now, should be tagged as won't do. Bug reports should be
>>>       checked for these already fixed, not-bugs and some which won't be
>>>       fixed anytime soon.
>>>
>>>    4. Actualizing ECL support libraries - libffi breaks on build for
>>>       armv5 (new version works like a charm). It is also at least worth
>>>       considering switching to lgpl3 (for pragmatic reasons) - this one
>>>       requires further discussion, but first things first.
>>>
>>> ** Evolve
>>>    1. Third party libraries
>>>       - Use most recent libraries (asdf, quicklisp, swank, etc)
>>>       - Treat libffi as separate project /move to more recent version/
>>>       - Treat libgc as separate project /consider lgplv3/
>>>
>>>    2. Make more ports
>>>       - Android (merge patches, write nice tutorial)
>>>       - NaCL
>>>       - Minix
>>>
>>>    3. Regression / testing / deployment
>>>       - vagrant
>>>       - automated reports
>>>       - suggestions?
>>>
>>>    4. ECL java application for android
>>>
>>> ============================
>>>
>>> I already wrote similar mail to Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll (attached as
>>> reference), and he suggested to write to mailing list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Daniel Kochmański
>>>
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > my name is Daniel Kochmański, and I want to say, that I am really
>>> > impressed by your work on Embeddable Common Lisp, and I want to thank
>>> > you for it. I find ecl nice piece of software and consider it a great
>>> > opportunity to learn.
>>> >
>>> > I'm writing to you, because I want to be maintainer of it. I have strong
>>> > C background, and I'm learning Common Lisp, so it wouldn't be very good
>>> > pick if project is actively developed, but since it starts to smell
>>> > funny (pun intended), I think it won't be a bad idea. I'm full time
>>> > embedded systems engineer, so I can spare only few hours a week, but I'm
>>> > convinced it would be sufficient for start.
>>> >
>>> > First thing I'd like to do is to roll out a new release, since git head
>>> > has many improvements over current release (especially bugfix for
>>> > bordeaux-threads), and cleanup of feature-requests and bug-reports on
>>> > SourceForge.
>>> >
>>> > Then I plan to move development to gitorious, and host third party
>>> > libraries as separate projects. Also, branching model would change -
>>> > current commits will land on "develop", and "master" will be kept for
>>> > releases only. I'm also considering reorganizing, or even moving ecl
>>> > site from SourceForge, because I find it really hard to navigate. There
>>> > is also problem with wiki, where subscription has ended, and needs
>>> > reactivation by one of the wiki organizers (according to wikispaces).
>>> >
>>> > Next thing would be actualizing libffi (build breaks on armv5 on old
>>> > sources included with ECL), and merging patches for android and nacl
>>> > builds - I'm working on it on my local repository lately. After that to
>>> > attract more people, I think that would be a nice idea to make android
>>> > app, which will bring ECL to android devices.
>>> >
>>> > What do you think about this proposition? I was convincing myself to
>>> > write this mail for few weeks from now, but I'm still not sure if I
>>> > should write to mailing list first. Anyways, again, thank you for
>>> > keeping this project alive for so many years.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Daniel Kochmański
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Daniel Kochmański | Poznań, Poland
>>> > ;; aka jackdaniel
>>> >
>>> > "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kochmański | Poznań, Poland
>>> ;; aka jackdaniel
>>>
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