[Ecls-list] [maintainership]
Evrim Ulu
evrimulu at gmail.com
Mon Feb 16 00:45:21 UTC 2015
Count me in too,
I've started fixing the autoconf script, i'll try to merge Sylvain's
patches into the repo.
Feel free to join at
https://github.com/evrim/ecl-mobile/branches
I'm working on mobile branch but its obvious that i need to fix
generic things first.
evrim.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Hernan Ezequiel Di Giorgi
<hernan.digiorgi at gmail.com> wrote:
> I definitively want to help. I tried to port the ECL build system in the
> past to CMAKE, but i drop it. Also i create a nice repl with ECL for
> android, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ar.com.playnu.clrepl.
> I programmed all my life as programmer in C and C++.
>
> I studied the source the last month, so i could be ready to help.
>
> About the point 2.
> Why not github? Is seems more social and popular.
> And no separate the libffi, gmp, and leave them to can get only one shared
> library when compiling, what is specially nice when working with android.
>
> (:
>
> 2015-02-15 18:13 GMT-03:00 ZhanLin Shang <shangzhanlin at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Juanjo,
>> I think we would need a well-organized document (including examples) to
>> make others know ECL well.
>> I can help to translate the documents into Chinese :)
>> Best
>> Z.Shang
>>
>> On Sun Feb 15 2015 at 9:08:51 PM Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
>> <juanjose.garciaripoll at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> first of all thanks for taking me into consideration and for volunteering
>>> to continue the project. I was overoptimistic in assuming that I could even
>>> continue fixing bugs or reading the mailing list at all. I therefore welcome
>>> any initiative to have a stable team that works on bugs and keeps the
>>> project alive and useful. Just let me know what you need, such as adding you
>>> to the Admin list and perhaps updating or giving you access to other
>>> resources.
>>>
>>> Since I do not have much time to read these threads, I would appreciate a
>>> warning when the issue has been settled by the community, with a list of
>>> steps that I should take.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Juanjo
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM, ZhanLin Shang <shangzhanlin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>> I agree with your opinion, I know some C (I've been playing around with
>>>> C for 5 years but not embedding) and some CL (which is the language I use
>>>> the most), I will try to help if I can.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Z.Shang
>>>>
>>>> On Sun Feb 15 2015 at 8:56:01 PM Daniel Kochmański
>>>> <jackdaniel at hellsgate.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> most of you have probably noticed, that ECL is unmaintained for quite a
>>>>> while. Some spontaneous attempts are made, like submitting a patch, or
>>>>> answering question - what is great, but insufficient. Many important
>>>>> bug
>>>>> fixes last on git head, a few potential improvements wait in patch
>>>>> queue. The other words - ECL starts to smell funny, what's a shame,
>>>>> since it's a great project.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm writing to mailing list to volunteer myself as projects
>>>>> maintainer. I'm sure there are people better suited for such role, but
>>>>> since nobody asks for it, I do. Please reply to this message with
>>>>> protests or support, if any. I'm full time embedded engineer with
>>>>> strong
>>>>> C background, and solely speaking - CL new-be. Since I'm full time
>>>>> worker, I can spare only a few hours a week, but I'm sure it would be
>>>>> sufficient for start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Short plan of things, which have to be done (any help welcome) - in
>>>>> descendent order:
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Roll out a new release
>>>>> Many bug-fixes lie on git, and are absent on current release. It is
>>>>> really important to make a new release.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Introduce new branching model
>>>>> http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Move development to gitorious
>>>>> Split separate projects into separate repositories (libffi, gmp)
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Patch submissions
>>>>> I think it would be plausible to move patch submissions to
>>>>> mailing list, so they can be commented.
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Refresh
>>>>> 1. Website
>>>>> I find it counter-intuitive and hard to navigate. Sitemap should
>>>>> be rearranged, and maybe even moved from SF.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Materials
>>>>> Wiki's subscription is ended now. It should be brought back.
>>>>> Usage examples should be easier to find and study.
>>>>> It would be nice to have tutorials describing, how to install and
>>>>> embed ECL in project.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Patch/feature/bug queues (as started by Arto)
>>>>> Decide, which patches need to be merged into ECL, reject the
>>>>> rest. Same with feature requests - if something is beyond our
>>>>> reach for now, should be tagged as won't do. Bug reports should
>>>>> be
>>>>> checked for these already fixed, not-bugs and some which won't be
>>>>> fixed anytime soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Actualizing ECL support libraries - libffi breaks on build for
>>>>> armv5 (new version works like a charm). It is also at least worth
>>>>> considering switching to lgpl3 (for pragmatic reasons) - this one
>>>>> requires further discussion, but first things first.
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Evolve
>>>>> 1. Third party libraries
>>>>> - Use most recent libraries (asdf, quicklisp, swank, etc)
>>>>> - Treat libffi as separate project /move to more recent version/
>>>>> - Treat libgc as separate project /consider lgplv3/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Make more ports
>>>>> - Android (merge patches, write nice tutorial)
>>>>> - NaCL
>>>>> - Minix
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Regression / testing / deployment
>>>>> - vagrant
>>>>> - automated reports
>>>>> - suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. ECL java application for android
>>>>>
>>>>> ============================
>>>>>
>>>>> I already wrote similar mail to Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll (attached as
>>>>> reference), and he suggested to write to mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Daniel Kochmański
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hello,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > my name is Daniel Kochmański, and I want to say, that I am really
>>>>> > impressed by your work on Embeddable Common Lisp, and I want to thank
>>>>> > you for it. I find ecl nice piece of software and consider it a great
>>>>> > opportunity to learn.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm writing to you, because I want to be maintainer of it. I have
>>>>> > strong
>>>>> > C background, and I'm learning Common Lisp, so it wouldn't be very
>>>>> > good
>>>>> > pick if project is actively developed, but since it starts to smell
>>>>> > funny (pun intended), I think it won't be a bad idea. I'm full time
>>>>> > embedded systems engineer, so I can spare only few hours a week, but
>>>>> > I'm
>>>>> > convinced it would be sufficient for start.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First thing I'd like to do is to roll out a new release, since git
>>>>> > head
>>>>> > has many improvements over current release (especially bugfix for
>>>>> > bordeaux-threads), and cleanup of feature-requests and bug-reports on
>>>>> > SourceForge.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Then I plan to move development to gitorious, and host third party
>>>>> > libraries as separate projects. Also, branching model would change -
>>>>> > current commits will land on "develop", and "master" will be kept for
>>>>> > releases only. I'm also considering reorganizing, or even moving ecl
>>>>> > site from SourceForge, because I find it really hard to navigate.
>>>>> > There
>>>>> > is also problem with wiki, where subscription has ended, and needs
>>>>> > reactivation by one of the wiki organizers (according to wikispaces).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Next thing would be actualizing libffi (build breaks on armv5 on old
>>>>> > sources included with ECL), and merging patches for android and nacl
>>>>> > builds - I'm working on it on my local repository lately. After that
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > attract more people, I think that would be a nice idea to make
>>>>> > android
>>>>> > app, which will bring ECL to android devices.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What do you think about this proposition? I was convincing myself to
>>>>> > write this mail for few weeks from now, but I'm still not sure if I
>>>>> > should write to mailing list first. Anyways, again, thank you for
>>>>> > keeping this project alive for so many years.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > Daniel Kochmański
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Daniel Kochmański | Poznań, Poland
>>>>> > ;; aka jackdaniel
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Kochmański | Poznań, Poland
>>>>> ;; aka jackdaniel
>>>>>
>>>>> "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
>>>>>
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