[cltl3-devel] getting mindshare

[Stelian Ionescu]

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 20:49 +0300, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:
> How does CLtL3 intend to get the mindshare it needs to succeed? I have
> a couple of ideas, but I'm asking because I assume this may have been
> discussed at ILC or elsewhere.

By accepting everyone who's interested to partecipate. I think we can't
do more than that: there's no DARPA now to threaten suspension of
funding and force implementors to collaborate


> My take:
> 
> * Don't try to sell or do too much in a single go. Don't try to eg.
> build a massive system of classification for libraries before you have
> the libraries to classify. Don't try to sell MASSIVE ideas when you
> can get most of the way there with a few smaller ones. Decouple ideas
> initially. Let them aggregate only once they have acceptance and are
> implemented.

I think that Jochen's message summarized well the most important issues

> * Remember to ask for what people *don't* want in addition to what
> they do want. This is not to say that controversial things cannot be
> done, but perhaps initial velocity (and trust in the projects ability
> to do its thing!) is best gained by focusing on the consensus.

I agree

> * Even if CL is a mudball of strength, I think what CLtL3 seems to aim
> at needs a razor sharp focus. Someone(tm) needs to keep the reigns
> tight and say "out of scope for now" to everything not in focus a the
> moment. Until a certain momentum is there focus is everything, I
> think.

I agree


> Cheers, and good luck!

thanks :)

-- 
Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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