Syntax control code
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Sun Jan 7 11:56:06 UTC 2018
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On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Faré <fahree at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's in doc/syntax-control.md in the syntax-control branch (MR !86 on
> Unhappily, gitlab.common-lisp.net seems to be down right now:
> If symptom persists, you may have to use my github backup in the meantime.
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> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 5:24 AM, 73budden . <budden73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi! Where the document is found?
> > 2018-01-06 3:53 GMT+03:00, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman at sift.info>:
> >> I just pushed an edit of syntax-control.md in which I try to capture
> >> terminology.
> >> Status: several Allegro failures break for me on test-syntax-control.
> >> Results from Linux:
> >> build/results/allegro8_64-test.text
> >> build/results/allegro8_64_s-test.text
> >> build/results/allegromodern8_64-test.text
> >> build/results/allegromodern8_64_s-test.text
> >> build/results/allegromodern_64-test.text
> >> build/results/allegromodern_64_s-test.text
> >> These failures seem to be due to NAMED-READTABLES not working properly
> >> on these platforms, rather than on anything ASDF itself does.
> >> Concern: As I was reading over syntax-control.md, it was brought home
> >> to me that the ASDF shared syntax is initialized to the *initial syntax*
> >> on the host implementation, rather than the standard syntax of ANSI CL.
> >> My understanding is that this is done for backwards-compatibility with
> >> some QL systems that assume they have access to extended syntax from
> >> some implementation(s). I'm concerned that this will create a
> >> maintenance headache going forward just so someone *else* can avoid
> >> making some minor clean-up. Should we just suck it up and make the
> >> shared syntax start out with the initial syntax? Why not break it now,
> >> and save ourselves trouble later? Also, it seems like "initial syntax"
> >> is not well-defined, even on a single implementation, since ASDF might
> >> be loaded at arbitrary times, possibly after modifications to the
> >> "initial initial" readtable. Finally, going forward, people will be
> >> yelling at *us* if implementations change their initial syntax.
> >> Unless there's a really important reason to keep this, I think we should
> >> kill it.
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