ASDF status for 3.1.7 release

Faré fahree at
Wed Mar 30 21:13:43 UTC 2016

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Robert P. Goldman <rpgoldman at> wrote:
> Unfortunately, the build went south for me at the first introduction of the precompilation into the build, so stable never happened for me.
Apologies again for all the trouble.

> TBH, I would suggest the building happen outside the ASDF repository entirely. Scripting isn't part of the ASDF objective, so I think having a scripting engine that one installs separately would make a lot of sense. The ASDF build tools are like bundling building of bash together with the"make" tool's build and maintenance.
I'm thinking about it, in case I go back to hacking build and test
tools for CL. That was the XCVB model, BTW. But at this time, I
suppose we can declare XCVB dead. ASDF improved enough that the future
will be either an ASDF4, or something completely different and general
purpose like Bazel.

> That said, even if the build tools were restructured, I wouldn't use them. They have been too rickety for me. They have failed one too many times, and I'm not going back.
> I am also unwilling to learn a new scripting framework, especially one under active development.
> Sorry, but she'll scripting for me isn't broken enough for me to enter into the project of developing a new alternative to perl and python. My active research is in other fields. I'd be interested to see what you all come up with, but right now I have other priorities.
Well, it's pretty stable this days and not "under actively
development" anymore, but point taken.

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