[asdf-devel] asdf verbosity

[Faré]

On 26 April 2011 12:36, Zach Beane <xach at xach.com> wrote:
>> PPS: I just made asdf more verbose in verbose mode. However, verbose
>> mode is the default, so this may or may not be annoying. Please tell
>> me.
>
> Now that I've seen it, I do find it both annoying and confusing.
>
OK. Should I turn verbose off by default, or should I make verbose
less verbose, or introduce several degrees of verbosity?

> Before:
>
>  * (require 'sb-rotate-byte)
>  ("SB-ROTATE-BYTE" "ASDF")
>
> After:
>
>  * (require 'sb-rotate-byte)
>
>  ; Loading #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "package">
>  ; Loading #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "compiler">
>  ; Loading #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "vm" "x86-64-vm">
>  ; Loading #<MODULE "sb-rotate-byte" "vm">
>  ; Loading #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "rotate-byte">
>  ; Loading #<SYSTEM "sb-rotate-byte">
>  ("SB-ROTATE-BYTE")
>
> More than one project has something like this in the .asd:
>
>  #+sbcl
>  (require 'some-sbcl-thing)
>
> There isn't a good way to intercede to make these non-verbose, is there?
>
We could make require explicitly use :verbose nil.

Probably should, too.
Only reason I didn't do it before was out of conservatism.


> I would prefer to see nothing at all in that circumstance, except the
> return value.
>
Is T a proper return value?


> Also, the display of the object as a "CL-SOURCE-FILE" is confusing. It's
> actually loading the FASL. (I know why it prints the way it does, but
> it's still confusing.)
>
I suppose I could specialize the description for source files
and for modules. What about the following when we're verbose:

 ; Loading FASL for #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "package">
 ; Loading FASL for #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "compiler">
 ; Loading FASL for #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "vm" "x86-64-vm">
 ; Loaded #<MODULE "sb-rotate-byte" "vm">
 ; Loading FASL for #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "sb-rotate-byte" "rotate-byte">
 ; Loaded #<SYSTEM "sb-rotate-byte">

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