[toronto-lisp] My notes on the recent meeting

[Abram Hindle]

Here are my toronto lisp users group notes. The topics are expressed in
rough order of appearance. Sorry no hyperlinks right now.

* LISP Meeting <2008-12-02 Tue>

Overall the meeting was about communication, semantics, lexicons and
models. Oh with a real lack of syntax (use sexprs) unless we need it.
Gary probably led most of the discussion.

How does this relate to LISP? Sexprs and expressability.

*** Concurrency -> Expressability of Lisp
    - The language problem
    - ORC
    - stratego - programming rewriting
      - TXL etc
    - issue of performance
    - Adoption
    - low level lisp
      - sassy
        - assembler and scheme macros
          - call out to scheme
    - siag - scheme in a grid
    - proto scheme
    - natural language ???
      - legalese
    - semantics
      - grammar
      - lexical
    - more semantics
    - more semantics
    - back to concurrency support
    - call return
    - grammar
    - did I mention semantics
*** Convienance
    - Prolog to lisp and vice versa
    - erlang - concurrency convienance
*** GUIs
    - Book: Humane interface
      - jeff raskin
    - ... missed some
*** Visualization -> Diagrams
    - studies
    - communication
    - diagrams have limitations
    - discussion
    - making diagrams
    - executability
*** Tree structured program
    - Book: Design Driven Design
    - macros are semantics independant
    - why bother making the syntax
    - work on semantics
    - SE & Tree Structure
    - Tree Specs
    - Executable specs
    - formal specs?
    - formal language for specs?
      - use sexprs
    - human translation to
      - formal??
    - paraphrased:
      - gary says model driven design/arch/spec
        - fails due to a lack of lisp?
    - Elegance versus symbolics
      - nice drawings mean
        - problem is defined
    - once you can winnow SE down to diagrams
      - you're a real engineer
    - Book: Realistic Compiler Generator from MIT Press.

*** Meeting Ended

*** people in attendance
    - abram
    - brian
    - paul
    - justin
    - james
    - chris
    - gary


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