From rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org  Wed Jan 14 23:11:49 2009
From: rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org (Robin Lee Powell)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:11:49 -0800
Subject: [tinaa-devel] What I had to do to get weblocks' documentation to
	build.
Message-ID: <20090114231149.GO31578@digitalkingdom.org>


I'm sure this represents problems with Weblocks' documentation, but
Tinaa should never crash out because of bad input, IMO.

Also, some form of debugging would be really, really nice.  ;'(

Anyways, in doc-class.lisp replace:

    (awhen (default-initargs (instance part))

in (defmethod display-part ...) with:

    (awhen (and
             (default-initargs (instance part))
             (and (boundp 'it) it (not (null (second (first it))))))

Otherwise I ended up with a failure when "it" had:

    ((:ERROR-MESSAGE NIL #<FUNCTION # {1000747059}>))

-Robin

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/



From rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org  Wed Jan 14 23:39:54 2009
From: rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org (Robin Lee Powell)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:39:54 -0800
Subject: [tinaa-devel] Wow.  It gets better: some non-trivial bugs.
Message-ID: <20090114233954.GP31578@digitalkingdom.org>


I don't know enough to break this down into a sensible test case, so
I'm afraid I have to throw the whole tarball at you; it's at
http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/big/robins-fork.tgz

I've used clbuild to get Tinaa.  I'm running:

    (push #p"/usr/lib/sbcl/site/robins-fork/" asdf:*central-registry*)

    (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :weblocks)

    (asdf:operate 'weblocks-asd:doc-op :weblocks)

I'm finding a *lot* of problems with the results.  These may be
problems with the way Weblocks is running Tinaa, I don't know, but I
don't know enough about Tinaa to figure it out at this point.

Problems with the results I've noticed so far:

1.  index.html has a link to weblocks-memory-package/index.html, but
not weblocks-package/index.html

2.  Looking at weblocks-package/class-dataseq.html , the verbiage
for allow-sorting-p comes from src/views/sequence-view.lisp, *not*
from src/widgets/dataseq/dataseq.lisp.  dataseq, AFAICT, does not
have sequence-view anywhere in its parental tree or anything like
that.

3.  The "sort" slot for dataseq does not appear at all.

-Robin

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/



From sky at viridian-project.de  Thu Jan 15 09:29:29 2009
From: sky at viridian-project.de (Leslie P. Polzer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:29:29 +0100
Subject: [tinaa-devel] What I had to do to get weblocks' documentation
	to build.
In-Reply-To: <20090114231149.GO31578@digitalkingdom.org>
References: <20090114231149.GO31578@digitalkingdom.org>
Message-ID: <20090115092929.GA26744@viridian-project.de>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:11:49PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> I'm sure this represents problems with Weblocks' documentation, but
> Tinaa should never crash out because of bad input, IMO.
>
> [...]

Yes, I reported that issue some time ago.

Guess Gary's brain's inbox is clogged. ;)





From rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org  Sat Jan 24 18:50:11 2009
From: rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org (Robin Lee Powell)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:50:11 -0800
Subject: [tinaa-devel] Wow.  It gets better: some non-trivial bugs.
In-Reply-To: <20090114233954.GP31578@digitalkingdom.org>
References: <20090114233954.GP31578@digitalkingdom.org>
Message-ID: <20090124185011.GH26717@digitalkingdom.org>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:39:54PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> 2.  Looking at weblocks-package/class-dataseq.html , the verbiage
> for allow-sorting-p comes from src/views/sequence-view.lisp, *not*
> from src/widgets/dataseq/dataseq.lisp.  dataseq, AFAICT, does not
> have sequence-view anywhere in its parental tree or anything like
> that.
> 
> 3.  The "sort" slot for dataseq does not appear at all.

These are pretty huge things: stuff just outright missing and wrong
in the docs.  Can anyone help me/Weblocks out?

-Robin

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/



From gwking at metabang.com  Tue Jan 27 14:55:37 2009
From: gwking at metabang.com (Gary King)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:55:37 -0500
Subject: [tinaa-devel] Wow.  It gets better: some non-trivial bugs.
In-Reply-To: <20090124185011.GH26717@digitalkingdom.org>
References: <20090114233954.GP31578@digitalkingdom.org>
	<20090124185011.GH26717@digitalkingdom.org>
Message-ID: <85D58919-6FEA-4D84-B6E1-E6D5C289C8E5@metabang.com>

Hi Robin,

I'm still crazy busy but will try to look at this in the next few weeks.

(wish I could promise more...)

On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:39:54PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>> 2.  Looking at weblocks-package/class-dataseq.html , the verbiage
>> for allow-sorting-p comes from src/views/sequence-view.lisp, *not*
>> from src/widgets/dataseq/dataseq.lisp.  dataseq, AFAICT, does not
>> have sequence-view anywhere in its parental tree or anything like
>> that.
>>
>> 3.  The "sort" slot for dataseq does not appear at all.
>
> These are pretty huge things: stuff just outright missing and wrong
> in the docs.  Can anyone help me/Weblocks out?
>
> -Robin
>
> -- 
> They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
> And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
> other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
>
> _______________________________________________
> tinaa-devel mailing list
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> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinaa-devel

--
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Cell: (413) 559 8738
Fax: (206) 338-4052
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From rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org  Tue Jan 27 17:42:26 2009
From: rlpowell at digitalkingdom.org (Robin Lee Powell)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:42:26 -0800
Subject: [tinaa-devel] Wow.  It gets better: some non-trivial bugs.
In-Reply-To: <85D58919-6FEA-4D84-B6E1-E6D5C289C8E5@metabang.com>
References: <20090114233954.GP31578@digitalkingdom.org>
	<20090124185011.GH26717@digitalkingdom.org>
	<85D58919-6FEA-4D84-B6E1-E6D5C289C8E5@metabang.com>
Message-ID: <20090127174225.GH26717@digitalkingdom.org>

Forgot/didn't know it was a one person job.  :(

Feel free to point me at a wishlist somewhere if you'd like a bribe.
:)

-Robin

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 09:55:37AM -0500, Gary King wrote:
> Hi Robin,
>
> I'm still crazy busy but will try to look at this in the next few weeks.
>
> (wish I could promise more...)
>
> On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:39:54PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>>> 2.  Looking at weblocks-package/class-dataseq.html , the verbiage
>>> for allow-sorting-p comes from src/views/sequence-view.lisp, *not*
>>> from src/widgets/dataseq/dataseq.lisp.  dataseq, AFAICT, does not
>>> have sequence-view anywhere in its parental tree or anything like
>>> that.
>>>
>>> 3.  The "sort" slot for dataseq does not appear at all.
>>
>> These are pretty huge things: stuff just outright missing and wrong
>> in the docs.  Can anyone help me/Weblocks out?
>>
>> -Robin
>>
>> -- 
>> They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
>> And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
>> other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
>> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> tinaa-devel mailing list
>> tinaa-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinaa-devel
>
> --
> Gary Warren King, metabang.com
> Cell: (413) 559 8738
> Fax: (206) 338-4052
> gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM * gwking on twitter
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/