[hunchentoot-devel] Using Hunchentoot and cl-who with other people (non-coders)

[Rohan Nicholls]

Having looked around at the options listed so far, I would have to say
HTML-TEMPLATE is looking like your best bet, as it is not going to
make a horrible mess in dreamweaver.  It looks a little verbose, but
that should help keep as much of the logic out of the html and in the
code as possible.

cl-emb might be able to handle the <% %> tags as a recent version
seems familiar with server-side tags, but the thing I hate about these
systems is that you end up with a big fat mess that cannot be seen
properly, and embedding the language in the html leads to madness, I
have been down that road, and have never been the same. :)

cl-who is definitely NOT what you want to be working with, it will not
allow for an easy back and forth between the two of you.  I like
cl-who for my own stuff but it is completely unfriendly to projects
where you have a division of skills.

I have never found the ideal way to handle this, plone templates come
close, because they embed everything in tags, and extend the xhtml
namespace, very nice, but you pay with a sacrifice if power.
Personally I like cl-who but would never want to work with a
visual/web designer with it.

My 2 cents, I hope it helps. ;)

Rohan

P.S. I think the xslt idea is neat (despite my aversion to xslt
itself), but will not help your situation.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Edi Weitz <edi at agharta.de> wrote:
> For this kind of cooperation, people usually use templating systems
> like, for example, my HTML-TEMPLATE.  My experience is that this works
> quite well, at least to a certain extent.
>
> Edi.
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Larry Clapp <larry at theclapp.org> wrote:
>> Hi, list,
>>
>> I am developing my first web app of any kind.  I've no experience with
>> other web app frameworks (like RoR or what have you).  I am working
>> with a friend, who knows Dreamweaver and other fairly high level
>> web-design tools, but can't code at all.  On the other hand, I don't
>> know web-design at all, using tools or not, so we're pretty
>> complementary.
>>
>> So I'm seeking guidance on how I can continue to develop using
>> Hunchentoot and cl-who, and yet integrate machine-generated html or
>> css or what have you from Dreamweaver or other tools?
>>
>> As I understand it, this is a known difficulty that other teams and
>> tool designers have faced, and if I'd ever worked with any other teams
>> or tools then it might be a no-brainer, but given my lack of
>> experience in this respect I'm not even sure what to Google to find
>> answers for myself.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any advice, links, pointers, etc, that users of
>> Hunchentoot and/or cl-who could provide.  Thanks!
>>
>> -- Larry Clapp
>>
>>
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