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Edi Weitz wrote:

>> I got the point.
>
>
> Judging from what you write below you haven't.

Why? Why you thing so? :)

Actualy I can answer you same. You did not get my point well. Think 
about. :)

I understand that SLIME is IDE, maybe powerfull IDE. Maybe beautifull.

    But this kind of IDE is not useful for me.

I am sure that You are civil. You have a fan with SLIME. You enjoy with 
SLIME. You can create
everything what you want with Lisp.. Emacs and SLIME.

    But I am not. I am pure and stupid.  And what?

Yes I am not so smart. But smart enought to recognize that SLIME is not 
an Easy To Use IDE.

 > 2. write definitions (not random code at toplevel)

This is bad.
What is the problem with file without definition?
Does Lisp language not support it?
If does - then IDE should let it too.

Maybe there it 10 things why SLIME does not...

    But this is 10 things why SLIME is not what I need.

Look at this http://www.sketchup.com/. So many feature, exelent tool.
But it is easy to use also.  Very simple. Very creativity. Very usable.

 > 3. compile a function with C-c C-c or an entire file with C-c C-k.

First thing, I do not like a long sequences like C-C C-k and etc.
For me this is bad side of EMACS. I will hope that sombody will
improve it for stupid people like me. Hope I am not single. ;)

Second I think the VB's IDE has very simple interface.

F5 start program.
C-F5 start with full compile
S-F5 continue
C-Break Break
----------------------
F8 step into
S-F8 step over
C-S-F8 step out
C-F8 run to cursor
----------------------
F9 togle break point
C-S-F9 clear all breackpoints

etc.

On error - it point cursor to error line automaticly. I can
change source and continue programm by F5. (In some cases it can't continue)

I like it. It is very simpe.

Yes, maybe it has no many cool things but for me it is enought.
And I do not see any reason to make this features more complicated.

What is reason to change start from F5 to M-x M-s for example?

PS. This is my job to make the job our team and my, more simple,
more comfortable. Even artist should use this IDE, but not only
programmers.

Do you think that to make an easy to use IDE for Lisp (scheme) impossible?
Maybe you think that nobody need it?

I think this is first problem of Lisp world, there is no good, cheap, 
simple
and modern IDE.

And if Lispers realy smart, and I sure that Lisp programmer is somthing 
special,
most powerfull programmer. Ok. If it like I said they should create this 
IDE.
It help to Lisp world so much.

Look around. Amiga's people so much love Amiga and made cool things like
AROS http://www.aros.org/

Where is Lispers?

Do you realy think that I am do not understand you friend? :)

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