<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">FYI - there appears to be a library called numcl that was written to cover numpy's functionality.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> https://github.com/numcl/numcl</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I've yet to try it, but thought I'd pass along the link.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Elliott Johnson</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 4/11/23 3:53 AM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Discussion list for Common Lisp professionals <pro@common-lisp.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: Numpy and Common Lisp? </div><div><br></div></div><div>There’s cl-ana, which may be a useful substitute in some cases… or april, 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onmouseover="imageMousePointerUpdate(true)" onmouseout="imageMousePointerUpdate(false)"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><br></div><div>If you specifically want numpy, it may be possible to have Common Lisp talking to python.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 11 Apr 2023, at 08:41, Marco Antoniotti <marco.antoniotti@unimib.it> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Michael</div><div><br></div><div>I am all for it. But, as I said, I am an academic (and a cat).<br><br></div><div>Should we (as in "a bunch of common lispers", most of whom with day jobs) want to do something like that, how would you want to proceed? Note that I have been part of many past failures.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>Marco</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 1:01 AM Michael Bentley <<a href="mailto:michael@stray-labs.com">michael@stray-labs.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><div dir="auto"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>IMHO, it'd be easier and effective to band up together and FIRST write a proper API specification and THEN implement it in CL.<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>I agree. Here’s the API specification for NumPy: <a href="https://numpy.org/doc/stable/reference/index.html#reference">https://numpy.org/doc/stable/reference/index.html#reference</a></div><div><br></div><div>Looks rather intimidating. Less intimidating though, than doing the FFI dance, though.</div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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