<div dir="ltr">You are puzzliing over undefined behavior, meaning what you have discovered:is that implementations are free to go as crazy as, well, canines in a dog park. This can be excitingly crazy, because the CL standardizers were too exhausted to include the MOP in the standard. (They made nice excuses about not wanting to inhibit implementers, but dollars to donuts they just ran up the white flag in the face of the idea of standardizing something as vast in itself as a complete HLL).<div>
<br></div><div>What were actually trying to build?</div><div><br></div><div>-kt</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pjb@informatimago.com" target="_blank">pjb@informatimago.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Jean-Claude Beaudoin <<a href="mailto:jean.claude.beaudoin@gmail.com">jean.claude.beaudoin@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
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> So my question is: Which one is right?<br>
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</div>I'd note that this is a major problem of how OO libraries or<br>
frameworks are defined. They very rarely specify or give any guarantee<br>
of when or whom will send a given message to a given object.<br>
<br>
This makes indeed difficult to subclass and override methods in a sturdy<br>
way.<br>
<br>
This is probably a reason why OO programmers nowadays tend to distance<br>
themselves from inheritance (using so called "flat" hierarchies), and<br>
like "final" methods a lot, which basically denies OO itself.<br>
<br>
<br>
Otherwise, for your question, you didn't mention any metaclass. I'm not<br>
sure about it, but I would expect such methods from AMOP to be used<br>
consistently only when you define your own metaclasses.<br>
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