Online Lisp Meeting #12

[Michał "phoe" Herda]

YouTube link of the video: https://youtu.be/aZn8dKmXbOw

On 17.12.2021 09:51, Michał "phoe" Herda wrote:
> A minor update: the video is 1h20min long whereas the timeslot for the
> meeting is only one hour long. This means that the actual meeting will
> last longer, we'll extend it for half an hour more.
>
> Apologies for the schedule mess-up, I'm slowly trying to get back into
> the whole streaming business.
>
> On 13.12.2021 09:25, Michał "phoe" Herda wrote:
>> Attaching the invitation.
>>
>> On 13.12.2021 09:22, Michał "phoe" Herda wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I hope you haven't forgotten about the Meetings. I sure haven't! Time to
>>> organize yet another one, or even two - since I got two videos, one
>>> right after the other. The announcement for the second meeting will come
>>> tomorrow though; let's focus on the first one for now!
>>>
>>> This time, we'll have Jan Moringen talking about a modern (and already
>>> rather successful!) approach to parsing the holy scriptures of Common
>>> Lisp - the language specification in its TeX source format.
>>>
>>>> The most important specification documents for the Common Lisp
>>>> programming language, namely the Common Lisp ANSI standard and the
>>>> Common Lisp HyperSpec (CLHS), are both provided under restrictive
>>>> licenses (and at a cost in case of ANSI).  This situation prevents the
>>>> creation and distribution of derived works such as alternative
>>>> presentations or corrected revisions.  This inability to produce
>>>> derived works has lead to the creation of independent errata lists
>>>> that cannot be "applied" to the specification.
>>>>
>>>> Despite these obstacles, a way forward, albeit one that involves lots
>>>> of effort, has been known for some time: start from the TeX sources of
>>>> the draft specification ("dpANS"), which are in the public domain, and
>>>> create new specification documents.  Those documents can then improve
>>>> on the hyperlinking and presentation of the CLHS as well as
>>>> incorporate corrections.  The high effort associated with this
>>>> approach comes from the fact that the tools that were used to create
>>>> the CLHS are not publicly available.
>>>>
>>>> This presentation explains the situation outlined above in more detail
>>>> and introduces our project to create the required tools and produce
>>>> new specification documents from the dpANS TeX sources and X3J13
>>>> cleanup issue files.  After mentioning some of the problems in the
>>>> draft specification as well as the CLHS that we plan to address, we
>>>> present our method for parsing and processing the sources.  After
>>>> that, we show current and future applications of the parsing,
>>>> transformation and generation process.  We conclude by sharing open
>>>> problems as well as a call to action aimed at re-discovering the most
>>>> recent versions of the X3J13 issue files which we, so far, did not
>>>> manage to find anywhere.
>>> A short Jitsi talk with everyone will happen just after the meeting.
>>> Where and when exactly - I'll link it in a follow-up mail.
>>>
>>> Date/time/location:
>>>
>>> * Date: 17th December 2021
>>> * Time: 12:00 CET - https://time.is/en/CET
>>> * Talk: https://www.twitch.tv/TwitchPlaysCommonLisp
>>>
>>> A mailing list has been created for the purpose of organizing and
>>> promoting the online talks. Further announcements will be posted there.
>>> See https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/online-lisp-meets
>>>
>>> New videos welcome! If you have anything lispy that you would like to
>>> talk about, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Calendar invitations will follow in replies to this mail.
>>>
>>> BR and see you,
>>> Michał "phoe" Herda
>>>