From ingvar at hexapodia.net Mon Oct 19 06:23:03 2009 From: ingvar at hexapodia.net (Ingvar) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:23:03 +0100 Subject: [noctool-devel] SNMP, again... Message-ID: Almost managed to load the relevant biots and bobs to have a play. Note "almost". We're still at a stage where published tarballs ain't cutting it and not everything is ASDF-INSTALLable. At the moment the latest tarball is ANS.1 v4.5, but it seems as if there's a check when you load the SNMP package, checking for ASN.1 v4.x (x >= 14). Now, I'll have abnother poke, for sure, maybe tomorrow, since I picked whatever was on the last line of the SourceForge download matrix and if the versions are listed in alphabetical order, 4.14 will be before 4.5 so... But, yes, it's slowly moving forward again. //Ingvar From binghe.lisp at gmail.com Mon Oct 19 07:08:58 2009 From: binghe.lisp at gmail.com (Chun Tian) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:08:58 +0800 Subject: [noctool-devel] SNMP, again... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Ingvar Yes, current latest stable version of my ASN.1 package is 4.14. SF's files order is not ... what I want. I'm using old Lisp machine package naming system, that is a major vesion (4) and a minor version (14). Every minor release after the major release is patchable to the base version. P.S. I'm slowing pushing another major release which contains many new features. But for now, stable releases on cl-net-snmp site [1] (almost one year old) are the best choice for people whom want to integrate my SNMP work. Regards, Chun Tian (binghe) [1] http://common-lisp.net/projects/cl-net-snmp/ ? 2009-10-19?14:23? Ingvar ??? > Almost managed to load the relevant biots and bobs to have a play. > Note "almost". We're still at a stage where published tarballs ain't > cutting > it and not everything is ASDF-INSTALLable. > > At the moment the latest tarball is ANS.1 v4.5, but it seems as if > there's a > check when you load the SNMP package, checking for ASN.1 v4.x (x >= > 14). > > Now, I'll have abnother poke, for sure, maybe tomorrow, since I picked > whatever was on the last line of the SourceForge download matrix and > if the > versions are listed in alphabetical order, 4.14 will be before 4.5 > so... > > But, yes, it's slowly moving forward again. > > //Ingvar > > > _______________________________________________ > noctool-devel mailing list > noctool-devel at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/noctool-devel From ingvar at hexapodia.net Mon Oct 19 08:14:44 2009 From: ingvar at hexapodia.net (Ingvar) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:14:44 +0100 Subject: [noctool-devel] SNMP, again... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chun Tian writes: > Yes, current latest stable version of my ASN.1 package is 4.14. SF's > files order is not ... what I want. Noticed this. Now have 4.14 snagged. Just need to get the remaining packages updated to a version that teh SNMP component is happy with. > I'm using old Lisp machine package naming system, that is a major > vesion (4) and a minor version (14). Every minor release after the > major release is patchable to the base version. > > P.S. I'm slowing pushing another major release which contains many new > features. But for now, stable releases on cl-net-snmp site [1] (almost > one year old) are the best choice for people whom want to integrate my > SNMP work. "Stable is good". :) All we need is (as far as I can tell) "read MIB descriptions" and "Interrogate SNMP sources" (so client only; there are a couple of would-be-nice that are probably better implemented in client code anyway, like "query the interface with IP address w.x.y.z"). //Ingvar "interrogat From binghe.lisp at gmail.com Mon Oct 19 08:49:30 2009 From: binghe.lisp at gmail.com (Chun Tian) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:49:30 +0800 Subject: [noctool-devel] SNMP, again... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CF81649-BAB1-454D-A415-9D01CEF1034A@gmail.com> ? 2009-10-19?16:14? Ingvar ??? > Chun Tian writes: >> Yes, current latest stable version of my ASN.1 package is 4.14. SF's >> files order is not ... what I want. > > Noticed this. Now have 4.14 snagged. Just need to get the remaining > packages > updated to a version that teh SNMP component is happy with. > >> I'm using old Lisp machine package naming system, that is a major >> vesion (4) and a minor version (14). Every minor release after the >> major release is patchable to the base version. >> >> P.S. I'm slowing pushing another major release which contains many >> new >> features. But for now, stable releases on cl-net-snmp site [1] >> (almost >> one year old) are the best choice for people whom want to integrate >> my >> SNMP work. > > "Stable is good". :) All we need is (as far as I can tell) "read MIB > descriptions" and "Interrogate SNMP sources" (so client only; there > are a > couple of would-be-nice that are probably better implemented in > client code > anyway, like "query the interface with IP address w.x.y.z"). I'm developing the SQL-like high level query interface which could "compile" queries like "query the interface with IP address w.x.y.z" from a form like "SELECT [interface] FROM [agent] WHERE [address = w.x.y.z]" into several low-level SNMP operations and return OO-based results back. In latest ASN.1 trunk, the ASN.1 compiler can compile MIB table definitions into CLOS DEFCLASS form and then SNMP package can use it to create CLOS instances as query result. This work is in progress, the major difficulty is how to represent above SQL-like queries, if I use a string to hold it, I need to write a simple SQL- like syntax parser. Or if I use CLSQL like symbolic syntax, I need some more investigation of how to passing the WHERE clause. Any way, I just want you know: what you want is also my need, so I'm working on this area. I don't think it's really that hard as there're much more complicated open source Lisp packages exist today. Regards, Chun Tian (binghe) > > //Ingvar > "interrogat > > > _______________________________________________ > noctool-devel mailing list > noctool-devel at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/noctool-devel From download at hpc.unm.edu Mon Oct 19 15:20:36 2009 From: download at hpc.unm.edu (Jim Prewett) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [noctool-devel] SNMP, again... In-Reply-To: <2CF81649-BAB1-454D-A415-9D01CEF1034A@gmail.com> References: <2CF81649-BAB1-454D-A415-9D01CEF1034A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, FWIW, I've /never/ been a big fan of SQL :P Have you seen AllegroStore and/or AllegroGraph from Franz? They use a prolog-based interface, which, once you get your brain around it works out /very/ well IMO. :) Just a thought, Jim James E. Prewett Jim at Prewett.org download at hpc.unm.edu Systems Team Leader LoGS: http://www.hpc.unm.edu/~download/LoGS/ Designated Security Officer OpenPGP key: pub 1024D/31816D93 HPC Systems Engineer III UNM HPC 505.277.8210 On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Chun Tian wrote: > > ? 2009-10-19?16:14? Ingvar ??? > > > Chun Tian writes: > >> Yes, current latest stable version of my ASN.1 package is 4.14. SF's > >> files order is not ... what I want. > > > > Noticed this. Now have 4.14 snagged. Just need to get the remaining > > packages > > updated to a version that teh SNMP component is happy with. > > > >> I'm using old Lisp machine package naming system, that is a major > >> vesion (4) and a minor version (14). Every minor release after the > >> major release is patchable to the base version. > >> > >> P.S. I'm slowing pushing another major release which contains many > >> new > >> features. But for now, stable releases on cl-net-snmp site [1] > >> (almost > >> one year old) are the best choice for people whom want to integrate > >> my > >> SNMP work. > > > > "Stable is good". :) All we need is (as far as I can tell) "read MIB > > descriptions" and "Interrogate SNMP sources" (so client only; there > > are a > > couple of would-be-nice that are probably better implemented in > > client code > > anyway, like "query the interface with IP address w.x.y.z"). > > I'm developing the SQL-like high level query interface which could > "compile" queries like "query the interface with IP address w.x.y.z" > from a form like "SELECT [interface] FROM [agent] WHERE [address = > w.x.y.z]" into several low-level SNMP operations and return OO-based > results back. In latest ASN.1 trunk, the ASN.1 compiler can compile > MIB table definitions into CLOS DEFCLASS form and then SNMP package > can use it to create CLOS instances as query result. This work is in > progress, the major difficulty is how to represent above SQL-like > queries, if I use a string to hold it, I need to write a simple SQL- > like syntax parser. Or if I use CLSQL like symbolic syntax, I need > some more investigation of how to passing the WHERE clause. > > Any way, I just want you know: what you want is also my need, so I'm > working on this area. I don't think it's really that hard as there're > much more complicated open source Lisp packages exist today. > > Regards, > > Chun Tian (binghe) > > > > > //Ingvar > > "interrogat > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > noctool-devel mailing list > > noctool-devel at common-lisp.net > > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/noctool-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > noctool-devel mailing list > noctool-devel at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/noctool-devel >