From krzysdrewniak at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 19:48:04 2010 From: krzysdrewniak at gmail.com (Krzysztof Drewniak) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:48:04 -0600 Subject: [movitz-devel] What need hacking? Message-ID: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> I'm not what you'd call an "experienced" coder, but I know some lisp and can learn some x86 low-levelness if need be. I have looked around the page and haven't been able to fixuge out what need doing, so if there's anything that needs to get done, could y'all please provide some pointers and I'll take a crack at it. Krzysztof Drewniak -- X-Real-Email-With-Antispam: krzysdrewniak at gmail dot com pgp key on keyserver.ubuntu.com 94F02AE8 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What do you mean? -- Robert Strandh --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From anontrol at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 07:06:51 2010 From: anontrol at gmail.com (anon trol) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 16:06:51 +0900 Subject: [movitz-devel] What need hacking? In-Reply-To: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> References: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> Message-ID: > anything that needs to get done has anyone tried loading movitz up on the various virtual machine platforms (virtualbox in particular)? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krzysdrewniak at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 13:35:14 2010 From: krzysdrewniak at gmail.com (Krzysztof Drewniak) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:35:14 -0600 Subject: [movitz-devel] What needs hacking? In-Reply-To: <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> References: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> <1293220308.7973.5.camel@krzys-desktop> <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> Message-ID: <1293284114.2826.2.camel@krzys-desktop> On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 03:49 +0100, Robert Strandh wrote: > > I just realized that CLOS is broken. > > What do you mean? The functions defined in los-closette-compiler are not being used in los-closette so there's undefined function errors in about 5 places. Krzysztof Drewniak -- X-Real-Email-With-Antispam: krzysdrewniak at gmail dot com pgp key on keyserver.ubuntu.com 94F02AE8 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From krzysdrewniak at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 13:35:20 2010 From: krzysdrewniak at gmail.com (Krzysztof Drewniak) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:35:20 -0600 Subject: [movitz-devel] What needs hacking? In-Reply-To: <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> References: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> <1293220308.7973.5.camel@krzys-desktop> <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> Message-ID: <1293284120.2826.3.camel@krzys-desktop> On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 03:49 +0100, Robert Strandh wrote: > > I just realized that CLOS is broken. > > What do you mean? The functions defined in los-closette-compiler are not being used in los-closette so there's undefined function errors in about 5 places. 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References: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> <1293220308.7973.5.camel@krzys-desktop> <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> <1293284114.2826.2.camel@krzys-desktop> Message-ID: <82sjxk4gxh.fsf@shevek.netfonds.no> Krzysztof Drewniak writes: > On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 03:49 +0100, Robert Strandh wrote: >> > I just realized that CLOS is broken. >> >> What do you mean? > The functions defined in los-closette-compiler are not being used in > los-closette so there's undefined function errors in about 5 places. Which functions, exactly? As to the original question, I'm afraid Movitz is still in the stage that "if you have to ask, you won't be able to do it". My best advice would be to start it up and play with it, then ask questions if there's something you can't get working or something you'd want to develop for it. -- Frode V. Fjeld From krzysdrewniak at gmail.com Sun Dec 26 18:57:45 2010 From: krzysdrewniak at gmail.com (Krzysztof Drewniak) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:57:45 -0600 Subject: [movitz-devel] What needs hacking? In-Reply-To: <82sjxk4gxh.fsf@shevek.netfonds.no> References: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> <1293220308.7973.5.camel@krzys-desktop> <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> <1293284114.2826.2.camel@krzys-desktop> <82sjxk4gxh.fsf@shevek.netfonds.no> Message-ID: <1293389865.5705.24.camel@krzys-desktop> On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 17:50 +0100, Frode V. Fjeld wrote: > Krzysztof Drewniak writes: > > > On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 03:49 +0100, Robert Strandh wrote: > >> > I just realized that CLOS is broken. > >> > >> What do you mean? > > The functions defined in los-closette-compiler are not being used in > > los-closette so there's undefined function errors in about 5 places. > WARNING: Function MUERTE.MOP:EXTRACT-LAMBDA-LIST is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::CANONICALIZE-SPECIALIZERS is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::PARSE-DEFMETHOD is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::CANONICALIZE-DEFGENERIC-OPTIONS is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::CANONICALIZE-DEFCLASS-OPTIONS is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::CANONICALIZE-DIRECT-SLOTS is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::CANONICALIZE-DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES is called (in "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. All spit out by a recent SBCL as the last errors in a `dump-image' There are more errors that are not related to CLOS, pasted below WARNING: Function LOS0::FVF-TEXTMODE-SCREENDUMP is called (in #P"losp/los0.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE.COMMON-LISP:GET-INTERNAL-RUN-TIME is called (in "losp/lib/net/arp.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::CLOSED-FLAME is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::WRITE-OCTETS is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::INSTALL-DUAL-CHANNEL-CHARACTER-STRATEGY is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::MELDING-STREAM is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::INSTALL-SINGLE-CHANNEL-CHARACTER-STRATEGY is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::COMPOSE-ENCAPSULATING-STREAMS is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. WARNING: Function MUERTE::FIND-EXTERNAL-FORMAT is called (in "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. Most of those are stream-relatated, and I haven't investigated whether the functions are ever defined of not. However, the CLOS block's functions are in los-closette-compiler (from an eyeball scan) Krzysztof Drewniak -- X-Real-Email-With-Antispam: krzysdrewniak at gmail dot com pgp key on keyserver.ubuntu.com 94F02AE8 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From frode at netfonds.no Sun Dec 26 20:26:27 2010 From: frode at netfonds.no (Frode V. Fjeld) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:26:27 +0100 Subject: [movitz-devel] What needs hacking? References: <1293220084.7973.4.camel@krzys-desktop> <1293220308.7973.5.camel@krzys-desktop> <19733.23483.984188.616944@ssh2.labri.fr> <1293284114.2826.2.camel@krzys-desktop> <82sjxk4gxh.fsf@shevek.netfonds.no> <1293389865.5705.24.camel@krzys-desktop> Message-ID: <82oc8846x8.fsf@shevek.netfonds.no> Krzysztof Drewniak writes: > On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 17:50 +0100, Frode V. Fjeld wrote: >> Krzysztof Drewniak writes: >> >> > On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 03:49 +0100, Robert Strandh wrote: >> >> > I just realized that CLOS is broken. >> >> >> >> What do you mean? >> > The functions defined in los-closette-compiler are not being used in >> > los-closette so there's undefined function errors in about 5 places. >> > WARNING: > Function MUERTE.MOP:EXTRACT-LAMBDA-LIST is called (in > "losp/muerte/los-closette.lisp") but not defined. Well, these are not errors, but warnings? Do you see actual errors at run-time? > WARNING: > Function MUERTE::FIND-EXTERNAL-FORMAT is called (in > "losp/muerte/simple-streams.lisp") but not defined. > Most of those are stream-relatated, and I haven't investigated whether > the functions are ever defined of not. I started importing simple-streams into Movitz, but never finished. I guess some of the warnings are because of this. -- Frode V. Fjeld