[mcclim-devel] Why is CLIM dead

Mariano Montone marianomontone at gmail.com
Sat Jul 7 18:11:04 UTC 2012


Hi.

A CLIM/McCLIM newbie here.

I've been reading about CLIM and playing a little with McCLIM, and it looks
quite good to me. I have been able to prototype some tools very quickly.

So I was wondering why CLIM is dead. It looks like it doesn't have any
activity at all. And I think it is a pity, because when I first looked at
Listener/Climacs/Debugger/Inspector stuff, I thought it would be a very
nice replacement for SLIME, for instance. I'm SLIME user, but I think
there's lot of room for improvements in the Lisp tools area, and the CLIM
tools + usability improvements + possibilities to extend the tools very
easily sounds very good to me.

Does anyone know why CLIM is not used anymore? Does it have any very bad
design decisions? I'm not really sure about output recording/redisplay, etc
(I haven't seen theme elsewhere, as if that could be automatically handled
in general). Don't know about composability and layout yet (I'm still
struggling a bit with that now). And I also see some bugs, like some
refreshing problems when scrolling, but bugs should be fixable.

I appreciate your feedback.

Thanks,
              Mariano
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