[mcclim-devel] New McClim installation

[Bill Sauer]

Hi Troels,

Thank you for the information I was trying to go the asdf route and ran into
troubles so I'll try clbuild.  It is my understanding that spatial-trees is
also required.  I appreciate the warning on forward references.

Thanks
Bill Sauer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Troels Henriksen" <athas at sigkill.dk>
To: "Bill Sauer" <bill at volersystems.com>
Cc: <mcclim-devel at common-lisp.net>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [mcclim-devel] New McClim installation


> > I would like to setup mcclim on a new machine.  I have cmucl 19d and
> > fedora 8.  I have searched the Web for clues on how to do this but
> > much of it seems out of date with broken links.  Is there anywhere I
> > can find out in a straight forward manner what needs to be done and in
> > what order.  I have been on the mailing list for some time and it's
> > pretty clear that mcclim is evolving rapidly which is good.  My
> > concern is that what ever I setup be amenable to reasonably easy
> > upgrades as mcclim grows.
>
> The way to do this is to setup an environment that makes it easy to
> fetch new versions of McCLIM (and ideally the dependency libraries)
> from CVS, since McCLIM releases aren't done that often, so you'll miss
> out on many improvements, bugfixes and compatibility fixes if you only
> run releases. One way to do so is to use clbuild
> (http://common-lisp.net/project/clbuild/), which is probably the
> simplest way to fetch and update bleeding-edge versions of certain
> Lisp software. Alternatively, a common approach is to use ASDF-Install
> to install McCLIM, and subsequently checking out McCLIM from CVS with
> the usual command:
>
> cvs -z3 -d
:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/mcclim/cvsroot co
mcclim
>
> Note that currently it is also necessary to get the Flexichain library
> from CVS:
>
> cvs -z3 -d
:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/flexichain/cvsroot co
flexichain
>
> Flexichain doesn't normally change a lot, so in most cases the
> ASDF-Installable version is sufficient, but current CVS McCLIM depends
> on an unreleased Flexichain.
>
> Your use of CMUCL may cause problems. CMUCL is perfectly capable of
> running McCLIM, and as it has both (green) threads and a fast
> compiler, it is probably the second-best choice after SBCL. However,
> CMUCL used to have some problems with forward-defined classes, which
> McCLIM uses in a few places. If I recall correctly, it was usually
> possible to get McCLIM to load by manually copying and pasting class
> definitions to the REPL when the errors happen during loading, after
> which it would load and run perfectly. This bug may have been fixed in
> CMUCL since I last tried it, however.
>
> -- 
> \  Troels
> /\ Henriksen
>