From edi at agharta.de  Wed Aug  3 22:44:49 2005
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:44:49 +0200
Subject: [html-template-devel] Re: html-template's caching of included files
In-Reply-To: <20050803013527.GR4802@tcp> (Igor Plekhov's message of "Wed, 3
	Aug 2005 12:35:27 +1100")
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Message-ID: <ubr4ek5cu.fsf@agharta.de>

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Hi!

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:35:27 +1100, Igor Plekhov <penguin at ocean.vvo.ru> wrote:

>> HTML-TEMPLATE maintains a cache of previously created template
>> printers. If the (merged) pathname can be found in this cache and
>> the file denoted by this pathname hasn't changed since the
>> associated cached template printer was created (which is tested by
>> FILE-WRITE-DATE) the cached value will be used and no new template
>> printer will be created.
>
> But HTML-TEMPLATE does not check whether files included in the
> template have changed.  It's a bug.

No, it isn't.  The docs clearly say that the included file "is
implicitely converted into a template printer AT GENERATION TIME."

> Also it would be nice to have a feature to completely disable the
> cache, so that HTML-TEMPLATE will always regenerate template
> printer.  It would be useful in a development process.

See the documentation for CREATE-TEMPLATE-PRINTER - specifically the
:DO-NOT-CACHE keyword.  If you're sure you'll never want to use the
cache write an :AROUND method for CREATE-TEMPLATE-PRINTER which sets
the FORCE parameter accordingly.

Cheers,
Edi.


From penguin at ocean.vvo.ru  Fri Aug  5 11:28:12 2005
From: penguin at ocean.vvo.ru (Igor Plekhov)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:28:12 +1100
Subject: [html-template-devel] Re: html-template's caching of included files
In-Reply-To: <ubr4ek5cu.fsf@agharta.de>
References: <20050803013527.GR4802@tcp> <ubr4ek5cu.fsf@agharta.de>
Message-ID: <20050805112812.GQ23389@ocean.vvo.ru>

On Thu, 04 Aug, 2005 at 00:44:49 +0200, Edi Weitz wrote:
> 
> > But HTML-TEMPLATE does not check whether files included in the
> > template have changed.  It's a bug.
> 
> No, it isn't.  The docs clearly say that the included file "is
> implicitely converted into a template printer AT GENERATION TIME."

Oh, yes !  But what a sense to check only one of many templates
while they all take a part in the template printer generation ?


> > Also it would be nice to have a feature to completely disable the
> > cache, so that HTML-TEMPLATE will always regenerate template
> > printer.  It would be useful in a development process.
> 
> See the documentation for CREATE-TEMPLATE-PRINTER - specifically the
> :DO-NOT-CACHE keyword.  If you're sure you'll never want to use the
> cache write an :AROUND method for CREATE-TEMPLATE-PRINTER which sets
> the FORCE parameter accordingly.

Yes, it is another way.  But with a parameter it would be more easily.
I am not sure about the cache.


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From edi at agharta.de  Fri Aug  5 12:12:43 2005
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:12:43 +0200
Subject: [html-template-devel] Re: html-template's caching of included
	files
In-Reply-To: <20050805112812.GQ23389@ocean.vvo.ru> (Igor Plekhov's message
	of "Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:28:12 +1100")
References: <20050803013527.GR4802@tcp> <ubr4ek5cu.fsf@agharta.de>
	<20050805112812.GQ23389@ocean.vvo.ru>
Message-ID: <umznwk2f8.fsf@agharta.de>

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:28:12 +1100, Igor Plekhov <penguin at ocean.vvo.ru> wrote:

> But what a sense to check only one of many templates while they all
> take a part in the template printer generation ?

This is an optimization for performance.  While you're still
developing you can disable the cache and as a result the included
templates will be reloaded as well.

Cheers,
Edi.


From edi at agharta.de  Fri Aug  5 12:40:57 2005
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:40:57 +0200
Subject: [html-template-devel] New version 0.3.1 (Was: html-template's
	caching of included files)
In-Reply-To: <20050805112812.GQ23389@ocean.vvo.ru> (Igor Plekhov's message
	of "Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:28:12 +1100")
References: <20050803013527.GR4802@tcp> <ubr4ek5cu.fsf@agharta.de>
	<20050805112812.GQ23389@ocean.vvo.ru>
Message-ID: <uirykk146.fsf_-_@agharta.de>

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:28:12 +1100, Igor Plekhov <penguin at ocean.vvo.ru> wrote:

> Yes, it is another way.  But with a parameter it would be more
> easily.

I've just released a new version (0.3.1) which offers this new
setting:

  <http://weitz.de/html-template/#*force-default*>

ChangeLog:

  Version 0.3.1
  2005-08-05
  Introduced *FORCE-DEFAULT*

Download:

  <http://weitz.de/files/html-template.tar.gz>

Cheers,
Edi.