From torstenanders at gmx.de  Wed Sep  6 09:50:32 2006
From: torstenanders at gmx.de (Torsten Anders)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:50:32 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
Message-ID: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>

Dear all,

I am new to this list and did not find my problem discussed already. 
Apologies if if this is a FAQ.

I tried to install the fomus commandline application, without success 
so far. It appears the compilation finishes successfully, then a Fomus 
greating message appears which ends up in the debugger. I get an error 
message which reads something like the following (copied by hand, 
hopefully without typos..)

debugger invoked on an END-OF-FILE in thread 8843:
	end of file on #<SB-IMPL::STRING-INPUT-STREAM {9734081}>
<snipped>
(SB-IMPL::STRING-INCH 3 #<SB-IMPL:: STRING-INPUT-STREAM {some number}> 
T NIL)[:EXTERNAL]

I tried Fomus 0.2.6 with SBCL 0.8.16 and a CMUCL snapshot from 2004 -- 
all on Linux (Fedora Core 3).

Thank you very much!

Best,
Torsten

--
Torsten Anders
Sonic Arts Research Centre ? Queen's University Belfast
Frankstr. 49 ? D-50996 K?ln
Tel: +49-221-3980750
http://www.torsten-anders.de
http://strasheela.sourceforge.net


From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep  6 10:37:47 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:37:47 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] new fomus frontend
Message-ID: <30D66434-6807-4B08-9E56-0B95AF2367AD@onlinehome.de>

Hi,

I would like to announce that the strasheela composition system has a  
new fomus backend (in svn).

You'll find further informations on its home page http:// 
strasheela.sourceforge.net/.

Particularly interesting might by:
http://strasheela.sourceforge.net/strasheela/doc/StrasheelaExamples.html

There is already one more example in svn that deals with a  
combination of l-systems
and constraints.

Cheers,

   Kilian




From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep  6 10:41:39 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:41:39 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <6F1C0AF4-596A-401E-9F0B-EE2727B94B5C@onlinehome.de>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
	<6F1C0AF4-596A-401E-9F0B-EE2727B94B5C@onlinehome.de>
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Am 06.09.2006 um 12:28 schrieb Kilian Sprotte:

> if not, I am sure that David will now,

the semantics of "now" here needs obviously be derived from its german
pronunciation (-:


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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep  6 10:47:16 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:47:16 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
Message-ID: <E7437A1A-3DA6-46F9-B538-D9476F30E7E3@onlinehome.de>

Dear Torsten,

you tried it with sbcl and cmucl and get basically the same error?

For the sbcl case - maybe it would be good just to try with 0.9.16 ?
Just to be sure: You are invoking it with $ ./install.sh --sbcl (no  
other options?)

A friend of mine had a problem _using_ the fomus cmdline app...
The error message was similar (if I remember correctly).

It showed up, that the encoding of his text input file was unicode....
Changing it to Latin-1 made it work!

There is even a 0.9.16 binary release available on
http://sbcl.sourceforge.net/platform-table.html,
so again, its probably best to try that.

Have you successfully compiled and used fomus from the Lisp REPL?

Hope that helps somehow,
if not, I am sure that David will now,
but he might need a longer backtrace then... ;-)

Cheers,

   Kilian


From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep  6 10:28:35 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:28:35 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <6F1C0AF4-596A-401E-9F0B-EE2727B94B5C@onlinehome.de>

Dear Torsten,

you tried it with sbcl and cmucl and get basically the same error?

For the sbcl case - maybe it would be good just to try with 0.9.16 ?
Just to be sure: You are invoking it with $ ./install.sh --sbcl (no  
other options?)

A friend of mine had a problem _using_ the fomus cmdline app...
The error message was similar (if I remember correctly).

It showed up, that the encoding of his text input file was unicode....
Changing it to Latin-1 made it work!

There is even a 0.9.16 binary release available on
http://sbcl.sourceforge.net/platform-table.html,
so again, its probably best to try that.

Have you successfully compiled and used fomus from the Lisp REPL?

Hope that helps somehow,
if not, I am sure that David will now,
but he might need a longer backtrace then... ;-)

Cheers,

   Kilian

Am 06.09.2006 um 11:50 schrieb Torsten Anders:

> Dear all,
>
> I am new to this list and did not find my problem discussed  
> already. Apologies if if this is a FAQ.
>
> I tried to install the fomus commandline application, without  
> success so far. It appears the compilation finishes successfully,  
> then a Fomus greating message appears which ends up in the  
> debugger. I get an error message which reads something like the  
> following (copied by hand, hopefully without typos..)
>
> debugger invoked on an END-OF-FILE in thread 8843:
> 	end of file on #<SB-IMPL::STRING-INPUT-STREAM {9734081}>
> <snipped>
> (SB-IMPL::STRING-INCH 3 #<SB-IMPL:: STRING-INPUT-STREAM {some  
> number}> T NIL)[:EXTERNAL]
>
> I tried Fomus 0.2.6 with SBCL 0.8.16 and a CMUCL snapshot from 2004  
> -- all on Linux (Fedora Core 3).
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Best,
> Torsten
>
> --
> Torsten Anders
> Sonic Arts Research Centre ? Queen's University Belfast
> Frankstr. 49 ? D-50996 K?ln
> Tel: +49-221-3980750
> http://www.torsten-anders.de
> http://strasheela.sourceforge.net
> _______________________________________________
> fomus-devel mailing list
> fomus-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fomus-devel



From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Wed Sep  6 13:50:46 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:50:46 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <44FED236.1050505@uiuc.edu>

I'll take a look at this today...

When run at the command line it shouldn't get caught in the debugger, it
should print the error and exit...  Another bug that I'll look at.

-David

Torsten Anders wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am new to this list and did not find my problem discussed already.
> Apologies if if this is a FAQ.
>
> I tried to install the fomus commandline application, without success
> so far. It appears the compilation finishes successfully, then a Fomus
> greating message appears which ends up in the debugger. I get an error
> message which reads something like the following (copied by hand,
> hopefully without typos..)
>
> debugger invoked on an END-OF-FILE in thread 8843:
>     end of file on #<SB-IMPL::STRING-INPUT-STREAM {9734081}>
> <snipped>
> (SB-IMPL::STRING-INCH 3 #<SB-IMPL:: STRING-INPUT-STREAM {some number}>
> T NIL)[:EXTERNAL]
>
> I tried Fomus 0.2.6 with SBCL 0.8.16 and a CMUCL snapshot from 2004 --
> all on Linux (Fedora Core 3).
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Best,
> Torsten
>
> -- 
> Torsten Anders
> Sonic Arts Research Centre ? Queen's University Belfast
> Frankstr. 49 ? D-50996 K?ln
> Tel: +49-221-3980750
> http://www.torsten-anders.de
> http://strasheela.sourceforge.net
> _______________________________________________
> fomus-devel mailing list
> fomus-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fomus-devel
>


From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep  6 16:44:59 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:44:59 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <44FED236.1050505@uiuc.edu>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
	<44FED236.1050505@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <2BDABE6B-C77F-4A41-87FA-80437A123769@onlinehome.de>

Am 06.09.2006 um 15:50 schrieb David Psenicka:

> I'll take a look at this today...
>
> When run at the command line it shouldn't get caught in the  
> debugger, it
> should print the error and exit...  Another bug that I'll look at.

I am just wondering if the installer assumes that ~/.fomus exists?
So, a workaround could be touch ~/.fomus.




From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Thu Sep  7 04:16:08 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:16:08 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <44FF9D08.4080303@uiuc.edu>

>From what I can tell, it's complaining that it can't read your .fomus
file--I've fixed the code so it won't enter the debugger if that happens
(and choke on it when it compiles)--I'll release the update in a few
days (I have to test a few other changes I've made first).

More text file examples will get posted in the docs shortly, and I'll
put a better .fomus init file example up...

I'm adding some options to control the output:

-v   view immediately (invoke the pd or pdf viewer after compiling cmn
or lilypond)

-l    output a lilypond score file
-c   output a cmn file
-x   output musicxml
-f    output musicxml w/ finale kludges
-s   output musicxml w/ sibelius kludges (I have to check if Sibelius
has fixed anything in their xml import--last time I tried it it was
hopeless)

-m  output a fomus file (won't accomplish all that much--it'll be nearly
the same as your input file)

-o   base output filename

-q   set the "quality" value (alters computation time)

Usage: fomus [-lxfscmvo] filename

Also, you should be able to put "\" characters at the ends of lines you
want to be read as one (seemed necessary as I was generating examples).

-David


From torstenanders at gmx.de  Thu Sep  7 14:34:53 2006
From: torstenanders at gmx.de (Torsten Anders)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:34:53 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <44FF9D08.4080303@uiuc.edu>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>
	<44FF9D08.4080303@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <6038328822e9fab8de0803cd878ecf60@gmx.de>

Dear David and dear Kilian,

Thank you very much for your comments.

Perhaps I need to clarify a bit the problem I encountered: I ran the 
script install.sh on a machine without any predefined Fomus and the 
build process failed for both sbcl and cmucl with a similar error.

I checked out svn after your changes, David. This script still ends in 
the Lisp debugger with pretty much the same error -- but now without 
any compilation before. And yes, there has been no ~/.fomus on my 
machine yet. Nevertheless, I also tried the script with an empty 
~/.fomus which showed the same behaviour.

Best,
Torsten

--
Torsten Anders
Sonic Arts Research Centre ? Queen's University Belfast
Frankstr. 49 ? D-50996 K?ln
Tel: +49-221-3980750
http://www.torsten-anders.de
http://strasheela.sourceforge.net



From torstenanders at gmx.de  Thu Sep  7 15:14:44 2006
From: torstenanders at gmx.de (Torsten Anders)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:14:44 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] [OT] Strasheela 0.8.1 has been released
Message-ID: <62ec6bcb2f66d73d6f95cc09c2093f52@gmx.de>

[Apologies for multiple postings]

Strasheela is a highly expressive constraint-based music composition 
system. Users declaratively state a music theory and the computer 
generates music which complies with this theory. A theory is formulated 
as a constraint satisfaction problem (CSP) by a set of rules 
(constraints) applied to a music representation in which some aspects 
are expressed by variables (unknowns). Music constraint programming is 
style-independent and is well-suited for highly complex theories (e.g. 
a fully-fledged theory of harmony). Results can be output into various 
formats including MIDI, Lilypond, and Csound.

The installation instructions and other documentation have been 
revised. Support for more output formats has been added, namely ENP and 
Fomus, thus allowing export to Finale and Sibelius. Other extensions 
have been added, and bugfixes have been made.

For more information, please visit http://strasheela.sourceforge.net/

This release can be downloaded from:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=167225

Best,
Torsten

--
Torsten Anders
Sonic Arts Research Centre ? Queen's University Belfast
Frankstr. 49 ? D-50996 K?ln
Tel: +49-221-3980750
http://www.torsten-anders.de
http://strasheela.sourceforge.net



From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Thu Sep  7 20:43:18 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:43:18 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] Installation problem: fomus commandline application
In-Reply-To: <6038328822e9fab8de0803cd878ecf60@gmx.de>
References: <b54edd13cd7b5af5a68448b0548df25b@gmx.de>	<44FF9D08.4080303@uiuc.edu>
	<6038328822e9fab8de0803cd878ecf60@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <45008466.9070302@uiuc.edu>

Torsten,

> Perhaps I need to clarify a bit the problem I encountered: I ran the
> script install.sh on a machine without any predefined Fomus and the
> build process failed for both sbcl and cmucl with a similar error.
>
> I checked out svn after your changes, David. This script still ends in
> the Lisp debugger with pretty much the same error -- but now without
> any compilation before. And yes, there has been no ~/.fomus on my
> machine yet. Nevertheless, I also tried the script with an empty
> ~/.fomus which showed the same behaviour.
>
If there's no compilation, this tells me that nothing changed when you
updated (it's just loading the old .fasl files instead of compiling new
ones) and otherwise it's just doing the same thing, but I can't know for
sure.  I just need more information--I can see the Lisp can't read some
file, but I don't know which one it is.  Could you cut+paste the entire
output, from when you type the ./install.sh command to where it breaks? 
Also use SBCL and please include a backtrace (type "backtrace" at the
debug prompt in SBCL), I at least need to know which file is the problem
file.  If the backtrace shows you a filename, could you also e-mail me
that file?

Also, unzip the attached fomus_dbg file and use this, to be absolutely
sure you have the same code I have.  This will help me a lot.  Sorry for
the inconvenience, I just can't replicate the error.

Also, SBCL 0.8.16 is a bit older than the current release (0.9.16 last
time I looked), and I think CMUCL might have bumped up a version or two
since 2004--the current version is 19c--this could be an issue.

Thanks,
David
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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Sat Sep  9 14:22:38 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:22:38 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] :nokey2
Message-ID: <6BB6A62B-D550-4C79-AC2D-E098897C205A@onlinehome.de>

Hi,

fomus has experimental support for a second enharmonic spelling  
algorithm that
basically tries do the same as the first, but is powered by a  
different solver --
in this case: adaptive search (fomus/ads.lisp)

This is the form I used for testing:

(fomus
:output '( (:data))
:verbose 1 :quartertones nil
:ensemble-type :orchestra
:auto-accs-mod :nokey2
:global (list (make-timesig :off 0 :time '(5 8) :div '(3/2 1)))
:parts
(list
   (make-part
    :name "Piano"
    :instr '(:piano :simultlim 1)
    :events
    (loop
       with x = 0
       for off from 0 to 10 by 1/2
       collect (make-note :off off
			 :dur (if (< off 10) 1/2 1)
			 :note (+ 48 (random 25)))))))

Cheers,
   Kilian

PS: David, could you replace

http://common-lisp.net/project/fomus/index.html
by
http://common-lisp.net/project/fomus/ksindex.html

if you like my change ?
(or maybe put that link somewhere else?)




From robcanning at eircom.net  Tue Sep 12 20:06:10 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:06:10 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] :mark (:ignore) ?
Message-ID: <20060912201251.258E5671AE@common-lisp.net>

hi!

is there a "blank" message that i can write in a fomus file but that it will ignore

for example

:mark (:portato)
:mark (:ignore)

this is so i could have a way of clearing a placeholder in a fixed length message i am generating in pd with [sprintf]
if i dont clear it it will remain in subsequent messages until a new value repalces it.  
i'm sure there is a more elegant way i could generate my message strings but it would be handy to know if there is a ":ignore" message i could send

thanks

rob

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From robcanning at eircom.net  Tue Sep 12 20:28:57 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:28:57 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] line break error ?
Message-ID: <20060912203537.76205751A1@common-lisp.net>

hi again,

when writing to [textfile] in pd, pd  sticks in a line break when a line gets too long

fomus doesnt like this

eg. 

note 2 :off 4.25 :dur 0.25 :note 63 :marks (:portato :accent :PP);
is fine

note 2 :off 4.25 :dur 0.25 :note 63 :marks (:portato :accent :PP :marcato);

where the marcato is on the next line
gives this error

;;; *****ERROR*****
;; End-of-File on #<String-Input Stream>

maybe it should be that fomus only percives a line break when it sees a ;

is there a solution to this ?

thanks
rob


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From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Tue Sep 12 21:29:56 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:29:56 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] :mark (:ignore) ?
In-Reply-To: <20060912201251.258E5671AE@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060912201251.258E5671AE@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <450726D4.7050302@uiuc.edu>



Rob Canning wrote:
> hi!
>
> is there a "blank" message that i can write in a fomus file but that it will ignore
>
> for example
>
> :mark (:portato)
> :mark (:ignore)
>
>   
So :ignore essentially does nothing?  It wouldn't be any problem to add
a mark like this, I'll put this in (either an :ignore or a :nothing
mark) for the next update (probably will be abailable by this weekend). 

-David


From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Tue Sep 12 22:09:19 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:09:19 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] line break error ?
In-Reply-To: <20060912203537.76205751A1@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060912203537.76205751A1@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <4507300F.2070801@uiuc.edu>



Rob Canning wrote:
> hi again,
>
> when writing to [textfile] in pd, pd  sticks in a line break when a line gets too long
>
> fomus doesnt like this
>
> eg. 
>
> note 2 :off 4.25 :dur 0.25 :note 63 :marks (:portato :accent :PP);
> is fine
>
> note 2 :off 4.25 :dur 0.25 :note 63 :marks (:portato :accent :PP :marcato);
>
> where the marcato is on the next line
> gives this error
>
> ;;; *****ERROR*****
> ;; End-of-File on #<String-Input Stream>
>
> maybe it should be that fomus only percives a line break when it sees a ;
>
>   
It should give a more informative error (the "file" is one line of text
that was read in).  I've added in support for a "\" character that will
tell fomus to continue reading the next line of text before parsing
(will be in the next update).

I'll have to think about how to add end-of-line delimiter,
though--fomus/Lisp recognizes ";"s as comment marks, so I might choose a
different character for this, or just have fomus look for the "note" or
"init" or "part" marker at the beginning of line and only begin parsing
new lines when it sees this (this seems more appealing to me)...  I'll
try to get this in the next update--I've been working lately on
improving the command-line interface in general.

Also, BTW if anyone happened to run into this working w/ input files,
I've removed any need to use Lisp formats like "#S(fm:instr ..." or
"#Z(fm:timesig ..." to define objects in certain places (pretty
confusing and ugly-looking, and only a Lisp programmer would guess to
specify something like that).  I'll update the docs to reflect all these
changes.

Thanks,

-David


From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Tue Sep 12 23:20:20 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:20:20 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] line break error ?
In-Reply-To: <4507300F.2070801@uiuc.edu>
References: <20060912203537.76205751A1@common-lisp.net>
	<4507300F.2070801@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <450740B4.1030607@uiuc.edu>

Actually, (I had forgotten about this alternate syntax, I'll
double-check the docs to make sure it's in there)--you can wrap
parenthesis around lines like this:

(NOTE 0
      :voice 1
      :off 7.5
      :dur 0.5
      :note 84.0
      :marks ((:tremolo 1/4)))
(NOTE 0
      :voice 1
      :off 8.0
      :dur 0.5
      :note 72.0
      :marks ((:tremolo 1/4)))

So if the line starts with an open-parenths, fomus reads everything up
to the matching close-parenths and ignores line-breaks--I think this
shouldn't be too hard to do from pd...

-David


From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 13 12:44:03 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:44:03 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
Message-ID: <20060913125044.800D13058@common-lisp.net>

hi,

can't seem to get :textnote to work...

what am i doing wrong here?

init :output (:lilypond :view t);
part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
(note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:textnote "sul G"));

;; Formatting music...
;;; *****ERROR*****
;; Error in function FOMUS::CHECK-TYPE*:
;;    Found :TEXTNOTE, expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot of note at offset 3.0

thanks,
rob

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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep 13 14:42:47 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:42:47 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
In-Reply-To: <20060913125044.800D13058@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060913125044.800D13058@common-lisp.net>
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Am 13.09.2006 um 14:44 schrieb Rob Canning:

> hi,
>
> can't seem to get :textnote to work...
>
> what am i doing wrong here?
>
> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:textnote "sul G"));
>
> ;; Formatting music...
> ;;; *****ERROR*****
> ;; Error in function FOMUS::CHECK-TYPE*:
> ;;    Found :TEXTNOTE, expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot of  
> note at offset 3.0

Hi,

imagine you would also want to write an accent:

init :output (:lilypond :view t);
part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
(note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:accent (:textnote "sul G")));

Makes sense?

Cheers,

   Kilian




From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 13 15:33:47 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:33:47 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
Message-ID: <20060913153347.158EA4507E@common-lisp.net>

yes that works alright - thanks

so :text has to be associated with another mark - it cant just exist in its own right?
if that is the case i suppose once :ignore is implemented that will be a workaround - a bit messy though.

cheers,

rob

Kilian Sprotte <ml13 at onlinehome.de> wrote:

> 
> Am 13.09.2006 um 14:44 schrieb Rob Canning:
> 
> > hi,
> >
> > can't seem to get :textnote to work...
> >
> > what am i doing wrong here?
> >
> > init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> > part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> > (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:textnote "sul G"));
> >
> > ;; Formatting music...
> > ;;; *****ERROR*****
> > ;; Error in function FOMUS::CHECK-TYPE*:
> > ;;    Found :TEXTNOTE, expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot of  
> > note at offset 3.0
> 
> Hi,
> 
> imagine you would also want to write an accent:
> 
> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:accent (:textnote "sul G")));
> 
> Makes sense?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>    Kilian
> 
> 
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Sep 13 15:40:55 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:40:55 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
In-Reply-To: <20060913153347.158EA4507E@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060913153347.158EA4507E@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <C1C7240B-8F21-4D33-A437-BB59CEA07B38@uiuc.edu>

i think :marks takes a LIST of marks. try

	(note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks '((:textnote "sul G")) )

--rick

On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Rob Canning wrote:

> yes that works alright - thanks
>
> so :text has to be associated with another mark - it cant just  
> exist in its own right?
> if that is the case i suppose once :ignore is implemented that will  
> be a workaround - a bit messy though.
>
> cheers,
>
> rob
>
> Kilian Sprotte <ml13 at onlinehome.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 13.09.2006 um 14:44 schrieb Rob Canning:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> can't seem to get :textnote to work...
>>>
>>> what am i doing wrong here?
>>>
>>> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
>>> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
>>> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:textnote "sul G"));
>>>
>>> ;; Formatting music...
>>> ;;; *****ERROR*****
>>> ;; Error in function FOMUS::CHECK-TYPE*:
>>> ;;    Found :TEXTNOTE, expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot of
>>> note at offset 3.0
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> imagine you would also want to write an accent:
>>
>> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
>> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
>> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:accent (:textnote "sul G")));
>>
>> Makes sense?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>    Kilian
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> fomus-devel mailing list
>> fomus-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fomus-devel
>>
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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Sep 13 15:51:35 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:51:35 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
In-Reply-To: <C1C7240B-8F21-4D33-A437-BB59CEA07B38@uiuc.edu>
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	<C1C7240B-8F21-4D33-A437-BB59CEA07B38@uiuc.edu>
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Am 13.09.2006 um 17:40 schrieb Rick Taube:

> i think :marks takes a LIST of marks. try
>
> 	(note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks '((:textnote "sul G")) )

Exactly, think of :textnote being a more complex mark object that  
needs the text as additional information as opposed to a simple  
accent - that's what I wanted to show and not that your violinst will  
always play accents on his g-string... :)

   -kilian




From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 13 16:44:14 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:44:14 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] pack list as symbol - was: expected valid/unique mark
	in MARKS slot
Message-ID: <20060913165055.4556A52001@common-lisp.net>

i get it - thanks - 

is there anyway that a character can be inserted in the spaces of a list so it can be formated as a symbol?
it would make it easier generating strings as symbols are easier to deal with than lists - in [sprintf] or {pack] for example

((:textnote "sul G")) would become 

((:textnote_"sul G"))
or
((:textnote,"sul G"))

and then could be handled as a %s
?

just a thought
cheers 
rob

 
Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> 
> i think :marks takes a LIST of marks. try
> 
> 	(note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks '((:textnote "sul G")) )
> 

i think you you meant  ((:textnote "sul G")) without the "'" 

> --rick
> 
> On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Rob Canning wrote:
> 
> > yes that works alright - thanks
> >
> > so :text has to be associated with another mark - it cant just  
> > exist in its own right?
> > if that is the case i suppose once :ignore is implemented that will  
> > be a workaround - a bit messy though.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > rob
> >
> > Kilian Sprotte <ml13 at onlinehome.de> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Am 13.09.2006 um 14:44 schrieb Rob Canning:
> >>
> >>> hi,
> >>>
> >>> can't seem to get :textnote to work...
> >>>
> >>> what am i doing wrong here?
> >>>
> >>> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> >>> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> >>> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:textnote "sul G"));
> >>>
> >>> ;; Formatting music...
> >>> ;;; *****ERROR*****
> >>> ;; Error in function FOMUS::CHECK-TYPE*:
> >>> ;;    Found :TEXTNOTE, expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot of
> >>> note at offset 3.0
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> imagine you would also want to write an accent:
> >>
> >> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> >> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> >> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:accent (:textnote "sul G")));
> >>
> >> Makes sense?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>    Kilian
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> fomus-devel mailing list
> >> fomus-devel at common-lisp.net
> >> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fomus-devel
> >>
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From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 13 17:16:23 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:16:23 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] :mark (:ignore) ?
Message-ID: <20060913171623.94588671AE@common-lisp.net>

((:textnote ""))
will do the job
cheers 
rob

David Psenicka <dpsenick at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Rob Canning wrote:
> > hi!
> >
> > is there a "blank" message that i can write in a fomus file but that it will ignore
> >
> > for example
> >
> > :mark (:portato)
> > :mark (:ignore)
> >
> >   
> So :ignore essentially does nothing?  It wouldn't be any problem to add
> a mark like this, I'll put this in (either an :ignore or a :nothing
> mark) for the next update (probably will be abailable by this weekend). 
> 
> -David
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From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 13 17:12:29 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:12:29 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] pack list as symbol
Message-ID: <20060913171909.232FE720E2@common-lisp.net>

scrap that
i can ommit the space
((:textnote"sul G"))

robcanning at eircom.net wrote:

> 
> i get it - thanks - 
> 
> is there anyway that a character can be inserted in the spaces of a list so it can be formated as a symbol?
> it would make it easier generating strings as symbols are easier to deal with than lists - in [sprintf] or {pack] for example
> 
> ((:textnote "sul G")) would become 
> 
> ((:textnote_"sul G"))
> or
> ((:textnote,"sul G"))
> 
> and then could be handled as a %s
> ?
> 
> just a thought
> cheers 
> rob
> 
>  
> Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > i think :marks takes a LIST of marks. try
> > 
> > 	(note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks '((:textnote "sul G")) )
> > 
> 
> i think you you meant  ((:textnote "sul G")) without the "'" 
> 
> > --rick
> > 
> > On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Rob Canning wrote:
> > 
> > > yes that works alright - thanks
> > >
> > > so :text has to be associated with another mark - it cant just  
> > > exist in its own right?
> > > if that is the case i suppose once :ignore is implemented that will  
> > > be a workaround - a bit messy though.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > rob
> > >
> > > Kilian Sprotte <ml13 at onlinehome.de> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Am 13.09.2006 um 14:44 schrieb Rob Canning:
> > >>
> > >>> hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> can't seem to get :textnote to work...
> > >>>
> > >>> what am i doing wrong here?
> > >>>
> > >>> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> > >>> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> > >>> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:textnote "sul G"));
> > >>>
> > >>> ;; Formatting music...
> > >>> ;;; *****ERROR*****
> > >>> ;; Error in function FOMUS::CHECK-TYPE*:
> > >>> ;;    Found :TEXTNOTE, expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot of
> > >>> note at offset 3.0
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> imagine you would also want to write an accent:
> > >>
> > >> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> > >> part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
> > >> (note 1 :off 3 :dur 1 :note 67 :marks (:accent (:textnote "sul G")));
> > >>
> > >> Makes sense?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>    Kilian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> fomus-devel mailing list
> > >> fomus-devel at common-lisp.net
> > >> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fomus-devel
> > >>
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From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Wed Sep 13 22:57:10 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:57:10 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:00:05 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
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From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 13 23:59:04 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:59:04 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] expected valid/unique mark in MARKS slot
Message-ID: <20060914000544.91AE71006@common-lisp.net>

> You can't beat the amount of tech. support your getting  :)

yes indeed many thanks :) 

what would be handy would be a short show off file using all the objects

maybe some on the list has something they could share?

this is as far as i've got so far

init :output (:lilypond :view t);
part 1 :name "Piano" :instr :piano;
(note 1 :off 0 :dur 0.25 :note 82 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 0.25 :dur 0.25 :note 87 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 0.5 :dur 0.25 :note 48 :marks (:staccato )))));
(note 1 :off 0.75 :dur 0.25 :note 76 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 1 :dur 0.25 :note 83 :marks (:marcato )))));
(note 1 :off 1.25 :dur 0.25 :note 51 :marks (:accent )))));
(note 1 :off 1.5 :dur 0.25 :note 82 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 1.75 :dur 0.25 :note 76 :marks (:endslur-(:fermata)) )))))
;
(note 1 :off 2 :dur 0.5 :note 57 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 2.5 :dur 0.25 :note 45 :marks (:portato )))));
(note 1 :off 2.75 :dur 0.25 :note 50 :marks (:marcato )))));
(note 1 :off 3 :dur 0.25 :note 36 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 3.25 :dur 0.25 :note 51 :marks (:accent )))));
(note 1 :off 3.5 :dur 0.25 :note 46 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 3.75 :dur 0.25 :note 51 :marks ((:textnote"")) )))));
(note 1 :off 4 :dur 0.25 :note 79 :marks (:staccato )))));
(note 1 :off 4.25 :dur 8 :note 40 :marks (:startslur-(:textnote"id=479"))
)))));


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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Fri Sep 15 12:03:51 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:03:51 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] iterate
Message-ID: <A7D79FDC-AFCB-4A3E-B413-6C6EAF2631A6@onlinehome.de>

Greetings,

this is just to announce that fomus is now installable, independent  
of whether you have installed the additional lisp library 'iterate'  
or not.

If you encounter any problems, please let me know on this list.

http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/fomus-devel/2006-September/000077.html
It also means that the second harmonic spelling algo as advertised  
above,
should be functional (but not finished yet, anyway).

Thanks,

   Kilian



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Sep 15 13:30:48 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:30:48 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] iterate
In-Reply-To: <A7D79FDC-AFCB-4A3E-B413-6C6EAF2631A6@onlinehome.de>
References: <A7D79FDC-AFCB-4A3E-B413-6C6EAF2631A6@onlinehome.de>
Message-ID: <21EE1C77-C89C-419F-AE06-0A0711360FDB@uiuc.edu>

Welcome to OpenMCL Version 1.0 (DarwinPPC32)!
? (use-system :fomus)
; loading system definition from fomus.asd into #<Package "ASDF315">
;Loading #P"fomus.asd"...
; registering #<SYSTEM "fomus" #x85D1E1E> as fomus
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/package.lisp"...
;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/package.dfsl"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/version.lisp"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/misc.lisp"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/deps.lisp"...
;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/misc.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/deps.dfsl"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/data.lisp"...
;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/data.dfsl"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/classes.lisp"...
;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/classes.dfsl"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/util.lisp"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/splitrules.lisp"...
;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/ads-noiterate.lisp"...
Read error between positions 5382 and 7643 in /Lisp/fomus/ads- 
noiterate.lisp.
 > Error in process listener(1): There is no package named "SB-KERNEL" .
 > While executing: CCL::%COLLECT-XTOKEN
 > Type :GO to continue, :POP to abort.
 > If continued: Retry finding package with name "SB-KERNEL".
Type :? for other options.
1 >



From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Fri Sep 15 17:33:54 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:33:54 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] iterate
In-Reply-To: <21EE1C77-C89C-419F-AE06-0A0711360FDB@uiuc.edu>
References: <A7D79FDC-AFCB-4A3E-B413-6C6EAF2631A6@onlinehome.de>
	<21EE1C77-C89C-419F-AE06-0A0711360FDB@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <E696E000-FF62-4F87-9573-3CB3BC6A0796@onlinehome.de>

Oops, it seems I have been a little too optimistic, sorry....
Its working now in svn.

Cheers,

   Kilian


Am 15.09.2006 um 15:30 schrieb Rick Taube:

> Welcome to OpenMCL Version 1.0 (DarwinPPC32)!
> ? (use-system :fomus)
> ; loading system definition from fomus.asd into #<Package "ASDF315">
> ;Loading #P"fomus.asd"...
> ; registering #<SYSTEM "fomus" #x85D1E1E> as fomus
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/package.lisp"...
> ;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/package.dfsl"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/version.lisp"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/misc.lisp"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/deps.lisp"...
> ;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/misc.dfsl"...
> ;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/deps.dfsl"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/data.lisp"...
> ;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/data.dfsl"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/classes.lisp"...
> ;Loading #P"/Lisp/fomus/classes.dfsl"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/util.lisp"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/splitrules.lisp"...
> ;Compiling "/Lisp/fomus/ads-noiterate.lisp"...
> Read error between positions 5382 and 7643 in /Lisp/fomus/ads- 
> noiterate.lisp.
> > Error in process listener(1): There is no package named "SB- 
> KERNEL" .
> > While executing: CCL::%COLLECT-XTOKEN
> > Type :GO to continue, :POP to abort.
> > If continued: Retry finding package with name "SB-KERNEL".
> Type :? for other options.
> 1 >
>



From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Sun Sep 17 19:31:17 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:31:17 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] v0-2-7
Message-ID: <450DA285.9070008@uiuc.edu>

The 0.2.7 release has quite a few changes, so there might be a few bugs
left that I haven't caught.  Some new things are:

plugin interface--anyone can add modules and backends by dropping a
.lisp file into the plugin directory (and putting a deffomusplugin
declaration at the top of the file)--this will make it easier to
experiment w/ different algorithms while not breaking the main program. 
Also, plugins load only on demand.  Kilian's note-speller (:nokey2) is
the first one (use it by making sure you can load the "iterate"
common-lisp package with ASDF and supplying the setting ":auto-accs-mod
:nokey2").  Get a plugin listing w/ LIST-FOMUS-PLUGINS (only the ones
that compile successfully are listed).  REGISTER-FOMUS-PLUGIN and
LOAD-FOMUS-PLUGIN aren't normally necessary, but they're there for
testing/debugging, etc..

Improved the command-line interface a bit--there was a bug mentioned
earlier on this list which I'm not sure I fixed...  but nonetheless
several other bugs were fixed.  More useful switches were added for
controlling output (type "fomus" by itself after it has been installed
to see them).  It should also work with CLISP now (I tested this on
Linux but not Windows).

Also, fomus is a bit more informative when reporting errors in text
files (gives the "entry" number and prints the line out)

Added some initial support for "chunks," which allow the user to process
separate sections of the score (either time-wise or part-wise) and
"merge" them together.  Parts are merged if they have the same part ID
or added to the score if their IDs are unique.  Right now overlapping
measures that both contain notes can't be merged--measures are merged
only if one contains notes and all others overlapping at that location
contain rests.  This definitely still needs some work done on it.

Key signatures are almost there (I've been procrastinating on this
feature)--eventually the note speller will take these into account (and
caut. accidentals will be correct)

Don't know why fomus runs 10x slower in OpenMCL (I timed it & compared
it w/ SBCL--OpenMCL is amazingly slower for some reason)--I'll have to
do some profiling

Added some more text input examples (+ Rob Canning's--thanks)

Thanks to everyone for your help

-David


From robcanning at eircom.net  Sun Sep 17 23:01:23 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:01:23 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] decimals and grace notes
Message-ID: <20060917230803.5D0F474163@common-lisp.net>

hi,

i can't get grace notes working with decimal dur entries:

this works:
(note 1 :off 1.25 :dur (1/4 -1) :note 63);
(note 1 :off 1.25 :dur 1.4 :note 62);

this doesn't
(note 1 :off 1.25 :dur (0.25 -1) :note 62);
(note 1 :off 1.25 :dur 0.25 :note 62);

thanks for 2.7 just trying it out now :)

cheers,

rob

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From robcanning at eircom.net  Sun Sep 17 23:45:12 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:45:12 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] repetition in list not allowed?
Message-ID: <20060917234512.B1DD377000@common-lisp.net>

hi, 

this works
:marks (:ignore (:P ))

this doesn't work
:marks (:ignore (:ignore))

should/could it?

thanks

rob


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From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Mon Sep 18 02:52:31 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:52:31 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] repetition in list not allowed?
In-Reply-To: <20060917234512.B1DD377000@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060917234512.B1DD377000@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <450E09EF.9050401@uiuc.edu>

Thanks, ignore & grace notes should be fixed now

-David

Rob Canning wrote:
> hi, 
>
> this works
> :marks (:ignore (:P ))
>
> this doesn't work
> :marks (:ignore (:ignore))
>
> should/could it?
>
> thanks
>
> rob
>
>
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From robcanning at eircom.net  Mon Sep 18 04:03:21 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:03:21 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] behavior of dynamics
Message-ID: <20060918041001.442557D016@common-lisp.net>

hi,
i'm just wondering would it be a good idea for dynamics to behave in a similar way to :pizz - ie not to be displayed on each sequential occurence?

in the example below i don't think the piano marking should be diplayed on the 2nd 3rd and 4th events.

just an idea...

thanks for the other fixes :)

rob

(note 1 :off 0 :dur 3 :note 75 :marks (:startslur- (:textnote"de")(:textnote"6")(:P)(:pizz
)))));
(note 1 :off 3 :dur 0.5 :note 81 :marks (:staccato (:textnote"dum")(:textnote"1")(:P)
)))));
(note 1 :off 3.5 :dur 3 :note 68 :marks (:ignore (:textnote"dum")(:textnote"2")(:P)(:pizz
)))));
(note 1 :off 6.5 :dur 1 :note 69 :marks (:ignore (:textnote"de")(:textnote"3")(:P)(:pizz
)))));
(note 1 :off 7.5 :dur 0.5 :note 76 :marks (:marcato (:textnote"de")(:textnote"4")(:FF)(:pizz
)))));
(note 1 :off 8 :dur 0.25 :note 76 :marks (:accent (:textnote"de")(:textnote"5")(:P)(:pizz
)))));

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From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Mon Sep 18 04:55:43 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:55:43 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] behavior of dynamics
In-Reply-To: <20060918041001.442557D016@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060918041001.442557D016@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <450E26CF.4070301@uiuc.edu>

Actually that's been on my todo list for a while  :)  I was thinking of
generalizing it (ie allowing the user to give a list of all marks & text
marks that should behave this way--the default list would be the dynamic
markings and the pizz/arco marks)

-David


Rob Canning wrote:
> hi,
> i'm just wondering would it be a good idea for dynamics to behave in a similar way to :pizz - ie not to be displayed on each sequential occurence?
>
> in the example below i don't think the piano marking should be diplayed on the 2nd 3rd and 4th events.
>
> just an idea...
>
>   


From robcanning at eircom.net  Mon Sep 18 06:42:15 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:42:15 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] behavior of dynamics
Message-ID: <20060918064215.8DEBA74163@common-lisp.net>

and perhaps the ability to allow cautionary instances as with accidentals

> 
> Actually that's been on my todo list for a while  :)  I was thinking of
> generalizing it (ie allowing the user to give a list of all marks & text
> marks that should behave this way--the default list would be the dynamic
> markings and the pizz/arco marks)
> 

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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Mon Sep 18 10:51:15 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:51:15 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] v0-2-7 - iterate
In-Reply-To: <450DA285.9070008@uiuc.edu>
References: <450DA285.9070008@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <085F0894-251A-47AA-BA34-F886B5E3C419@onlinehome.de>

Am 17.09.2006 um 21:31 schrieb David Psenicka:

> the first one (use it by making sure you can load the "iterate"
> common-lisp package with ASDF and supplying the setting ":auto-accs- 
> mod
> :nokey2").

Since I introduced this dependency, dont hesitate to ask
me about installing this package, if needed.

Greetings,

   Kilian


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From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 20 22:02:49 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:02:49 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] chord as string?
Message-ID: <20060920220250.D341C20000@common-lisp.net>

hi,

if would be handy, as an option, to be able to write the likes of this:

(note 1 :off 0 :dur 4 :note 60)
(note 1 :off 0 :dur 4 :note 67)
(note 1 :off 0 :dur 4 :note 68)
(note 1 :off 0 :dur 4 :note 75)

somthing like this: 

(note 1 :off 0 :dur 4 (:note 60, 67, 68, 75))

would this be possible?

thanks

rob

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From robcanning at eircom.net  Wed Sep 20 23:28:18 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:28:18 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output?
Message-ID: <20060920232818.E2D1C232B3@common-lisp.net>

how do i output a musicxml-finale file?

this is what i'm trying:

init :output (:lilypond :view t);
init :output (:musicxml-finale :filename "fomusxxxmmmmlll");

thanks

rob

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From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Thu Sep 21 07:09:43 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:09:43 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] chord as string?
In-Reply-To: <20060920220250.D341C20000@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060920220250.D341C20000@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <45123AB7.1080301@uiuc.edu>

I'll can add something in--it'll probably look like this:

:note (60 67 68 75)


>   


From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Thu Sep 21 07:20:18 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:20:18 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output?
In-Reply-To: <20060920232818.E2D1C232B3@common-lisp.net>
References: <20060920232818.E2D1C232B3@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <45123D32.6020605@uiuc.edu>


Rob Canning wrote:
> how do i output a musicxml-finale file?
>
> this is what i'm trying:
>
> init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> init :output (:musicxml-finale :filename "fomusxxxmmmmlll");
>
>
>   

if you're specifying two values for :output, then one will override the
other----try this if you want both outputs:

init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"                                            
;; basename
init :output (:musicxml-finale (:lilypond :view t))


you should get /dir/xxxxx.xml and /dir/xxxxx.ly


or this:



init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"
init :output ((:musicxml-finale :filename "anotherfilename.xml")
(:lilypond :view t))


you should ge t /dir/anotherfilename.xml and /dir/xxxxx.ly


From robcanning at eircom.net  Thu Sep 21 11:52:52 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:52:52 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output?
Message-ID: <20060921115253.57B2A74370@common-lisp.net>

now i get this:

;;; *****ERROR*****
;; Error in function LOAD-FOMUS-PLUGIN:
;;    Plugin MUSICXML-FINAL is not registered or does not exist

i notice that the plugin folder inside the fomus folder is empty?

is this me doing something wrong or somthing missing in fomus?

thanks 

rob

David Psenicka <dpsenick at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> 
> 
> Rob Canning wrote:
> > how do i output a musicxml-finale file?
> >
> > this is what i'm trying:
> >
> > init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> > init :output (:musicxml-finale :filename "fomusxxxmmmmlll");
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> if you're specifying two values for :output, then one will override the
> other----try this if you want both outputs:
> 
> init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"                                            
> ;; basename
> init :output (:musicxml-finale (:lilypond :view t))
> 
> 
> you should get /dir/xxxxx.xml and /dir/xxxxx.ly
> 
> 
> or this:
> 
> 
> 
> init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"
> init :output ((:musicxml-finale :filename "anotherfilename.xml")
> (:lilypond :view t))
> 
> 
> you should ge t /dir/anotherfilename.xml and /dir/xxxxx.ly
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From robcanning at eircom.net  Thu Sep 21 11:54:22 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:54:22 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] chord as string?
Message-ID: <20060921115422.E4659D001@common-lisp.net>

that'd be great!
many thanks
rob

David Psenicka <dpsenick at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> 
> I'll can add something in--it'll probably look like this:
> 
> :note (60 67 68 75)
> 
> 
> >   
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From robcanning at eircom.net  Thu Sep 21 12:56:45 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:56:45 +0100
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output? ignore me!
Message-ID: <20060921125645.4EE4636008@common-lisp.net>

sorry about the noise!
ignore previous messages - got it figured - was running into trouble with the line break so needed to put an extra set of brackets around the the whole line...
sorry ;)


robcanning at eircom.net wrote:

> 
> now i get this:
> 
> ;;; *****ERROR*****
> ;; Error in function LOAD-FOMUS-PLUGIN:
> ;;    Plugin MUSICXML-FINAL is not registered or does not exist
> 
> i notice that the plugin folder inside the fomus folder is empty?
> 
> is this me doing something wrong or somthing missing in fomus?
> 
> thanks 
> 
> rob
> 
> David Psenicka <dpsenick at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Rob Canning wrote:
> > > how do i output a musicxml-finale file?
> > >
> > > this is what i'm trying:
> > >
> > > init :output (:lilypond :view t);
> > > init :output (:musicxml-finale :filename "fomusxxxmmmmlll");
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > if you're specifying two values for :output, then one will override the
> > other----try this if you want both outputs:
> > 
> > init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"                                            
> > ;; basename
> > init :output (:musicxml-finale (:lilypond :view t))
> > 
> > 
> > you should get /dir/xxxxx.xml and /dir/xxxxx.ly
> > 
> > 
> > or this:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"
> > init :output ((:musicxml-finale :filename "anotherfilename.xml")
> > (:lilypond :view t))
> > 
> > 
> > you should ge t /dir/anotherfilename.xml and /dir/xxxxx.ly
> > _______________________________________________
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> > fomus-devel at common-lisp.net
> > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fomus-devel
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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Thu Sep 21 13:42:42 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:42:42 +0200
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output?
In-Reply-To: <45123D32.6020605@uiuc.edu>
References: <20060920232818.E2D1C232B3@common-lisp.net>
	<45123D32.6020605@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <9189AC73-8D03-4585-B6E1-E3E7FF7010FF@onlinehome.de>

Hi David,

Am 21.09.2006 um 09:20 schrieb David Psenicka:

> if you're specifying two values for :output, then one will override  
> the
> other----try this if you want both outputs:
>
> init :filename "/dir/xxxxx"
> ;; basename
> init :output (:musicxml-finale (:lilypond :view t))

Oh, something I wanted to ask for a long time...
Is it possible to use :backend instead of :output?
And is there a difference?

Thanks,

   Kilian


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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:51:51 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output?
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:56:06 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output? ignore me!
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From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:36:36 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] musicxml-finale output?
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From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Tue Sep 26 17:14:03 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:14:03 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] changes
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Some more fixes, additions:

v0.2.10
    Squashed a few bugs
    :notes keyword in .fms files for specifying chords
    AUTO-DYN-NODUP setting and cleaning repeated dynamic marks (more
user control to be added)
    OFF tags in .fms file for shifting offsets over sections of file
    FOMUS uses ASDF (and ASDF-Binary-Locations) to determine where
plugin .fasl files are placed
    Changed some setting names
    Fixed LilyPond backend bug involving alternate noteheads and grace notes
    Added MARKS slot to percussion instrument definition
    Added some more LilyPond settings
    Straightened out deffomusplugin and made it look more like defpackage
    Fixed bug with beaming in compound meters


From robcanning at eircom.net  Thu Sep 28 20:00:28 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:00:28 +0000
Subject: [fomus-devel] WARNING: Can't register plugin file
	fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp
In-Reply-To: <45195FDB.2050705@uiuc.edu>
References: <20060921125645.4EE4636008@common-lisp.net>
	<45195FDB.2050705@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <451C29DC.6070800@eircom.net>

is this a bug or me?!

(note 1 :off 0.125 :dur 0.125 :note (66 71));


/~) # fomus /root/pd.txt                                             
dynebolic
"/mnt/hd4/2/canning_PhD/canning_NOTATION_ENGINE/fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp"
;; Loading input file "/root/pd.txt"...
;; Formatting music...
; Saving debug file "/tmp/fomus.dbg"...
; Checking types...
;;; *****ERROR*****
;; Error in function CHECK-TYPE*:
;;    Found (66 71), expected REAL or valid note/accidental symbols in 
the form X, (X X ...) or (X (X X) ...) in NOTE slot of note at offset 0.125



thanks

rob



From robcanning at eircom.net  Thu Sep 28 20:19:40 2006
From: robcanning at eircom.net (Rob Canning)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:19:40 +0000
Subject: [fomus-devel] WARNING: Can't register plugin
	file	fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp
In-Reply-To: <451C29DC.6070800@eircom.net>
References: <20060921125645.4EE4636008@common-lisp.net>	<45195FDB.2050705@uiuc.edu>
	<451C29DC.6070800@eircom.net>
Message-ID: <451C2E5C.9060203@eircom.net>

i cut the error out of the last mail by accident:

*WARNING: Can't register plugin file  
*"/mnt/hd4/2/canning_PhD/canning_NOTATION_ENGINE/fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp" 


Rob Canning wrote:
> is this a bug or me?!
>
> (note 1 :off 0.125 :dur 0.125 :note (66 71));
>
>
> /~) # fomus /root/pd.txt                                             
> dynebolic
> "/mnt/hd4/2/canning_PhD/canning_NOTATION_ENGINE/fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp" 
>
> ;; Loading input file "/root/pd.txt"...
> ;; Formatting music...
> ; Saving debug file "/tmp/fomus.dbg"...
> ; Checking types...
> ;;; *****ERROR*****
> ;; Error in function CHECK-TYPE*:
> ;;    Found (66 71), expected REAL or valid note/accidental symbols in 
> the form X, (X X ...) or (X (X X) ...) in NOTE slot of note at offset 
> 0.125




From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Thu Sep 28 21:47:02 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:47:02 -0500
Subject: [fomus-devel] WARNING: Can't register plugin
	file	fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp
In-Reply-To: <451C2E5C.9060203@eircom.net>
References: <20060921125645.4EE4636008@common-lisp.net>	<45195FDB.2050705@uiuc.edu>
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Rob Canning wrote:
>
> *WARNING: Can't register plugin file 
> *"/mnt/hd4/2/canning_PhD/canning_NOTATION_ENGINE/fomus-0.2.10/plugins/ads.lisp"
>
>
This means it can't compile the ads.lisp plugin for some reason or
another (my guess is it can't load the "iterate" dependency that it
needs)--this shouldn't cause problems or break anything

>> (note 1 :off 0.125 :dur 0.125 :note (66 71));
>>
I made the keyword :notes for chords or lists of notes, since it's also
possible to specify accidentals or lists of possible accidentals, and
since these go into lists as well, parsing these could get confusing... 
:notes should only work in the input files