[elephant-devel] Development tools

[Robert L. Read]

I prefer darcs, as well, actually.

On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 09:34 -0500, Ian Eslick wrote:

> I've used SVN a fair bit although I find managing branches in SVN to be
> quite annoying.  I prefer darcs, actually, but am happy to use
> Subversion - any other elephant users want to chime in on this?
> 
> Here's a set of Trac issues for UCW for example. 
> http://trac.common-lisp.net/ucw/report/1 
> 
> There's also a WIKI to keep the TODO file and DESIGN file contents live
> instead of hiding in the source tree.  I'm all for switching to Trac
> sooner rather than later.
> 
> Google has also put together a nice environment for hosting, but I think
> common-lisp.net is where folks go looking for lisp code.  0.6.1 is
> probably a few weeks away (although with x86 mac & parallels I can test
> all the lisp+os variations locally now; that should speed up the
> debugging cycle as I can reproduce anything except 64-bit problems
> locally - I think Marco and I resolved that)
> 
> Unicode:
> 
> By the way, I'm just cleaning up the last of my unicode updates.  I kept
> having problems with the efficiency hacks in the current support for
> Unicode -- there was no canonical representation of strings in the
> database; each lisp+machine coded it differently.  Also, even though
> most strings have codes in the ASCII or Latin-1 character set, SBCL was
> still storing 32-bit characters.  It now uses the smallest coding size
> (8,16 or 32) necessary to represent the string.  Support for 8 or 16 is
> fairly efficient but if you use unicode code pages > 0 there will be a
> performance and storage hit.  I put in a convention in where all 16/32
> bit unicode strings are stored little-endian (x86 is a little-endian
> machine) so I can use native string reader functions to pull shorts and
> ints out of the byte vectors when possible.  This should greatly compact
> string storage on most unicode supporting systems (2x on allegro, 4x on
> SBCL).
> 
> More string efficiency hacks coming your way soon...
> 
> Cheers,
> Ian
> 
> Robert L. Read wrote:
> > Yes.
> >
> > I think we should probably do this.  I am not experienced with
> > subversion, and know nothing
> > about Trac, but using a mailing list for everything is a concept we
> > need to outgrow.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 07:59 +0100, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
> >> If I ain't mistaken, currently Elephant only has a CVS, and no bug
> >> tracker of any sort.
> >>
> >> Before or after 0.6.1, could you consider switching to subversion and
> >> trac, as they are provided by common-list.net? It could help possible
> >> contributors to see what remains to be done (comments and attached
> >> patches to issues, assignments, etc.).
> >>
> >> Curiously,
> >> Nowhere man
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