From edi at agharta.de Thu Sep 8 10:22:13 2011 From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:22:13 +0200 Subject: [eclm] ECLM 2011 - we need you! Message-ID: Hi everybody, We'd like to remind everybody that it is still possible to register for the European Common Lisp Meeting 2011 in Amsterdam. We're sending this reminder because the number of registrations so far has been pretty low. In fact, it is far away from what we expected and used as the basis for our calculations. With 47 participants (as of September 7) we'll make a loss of almost 2,000 Euros and we'd need roughly 25 more registrations to not end up in the red. Maybe this email can convince at least some of those who haven't registered yet to change their minds. Or maybe you know someone you think you should forward this to. (Also, feel free to blog about it or use other means to disseminate this message.) More details about the ECLM can be found here: http://weitz.de/eclm2011/ We're looking forward to meeting all of you in October and we're still hoping to see at least as many fellow Lispers as in the last years. Arthur & Edi. From frgo at me.com Thu Sep 8 11:12:18 2011 From: frgo at me.com (Frank Goenninger) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:12:18 +0200 Subject: [eclm] ECLM 2011 - we need you! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Edi & Arthur, Am 08.09.2011 um 12:22 schrieb Edi Weitz: > Hi everybody, > > We'd like to remind everybody that it is still possible to register > for the European Common Lisp Meeting 2011 in Amsterdam. We're sending > this reminder because the number of registrations so far has been > pretty low. In fact, it is far away from what we expected and used as > the basis for our calculations. With 47 participants (as of September > 7) we'll make a loss of almost 2,000 Euros and we'd need roughly 25 > more registrations to not end up in the red. That's really bad news. Unfortunately the date doesn't work for me this year - business commitments are forcing me to not being able to participate this year. And I had really planned to be there already last year... I am very sorry to have to apologize for not being there this year. I *do* hope you will get the minimum number of participants! Best of luck! Frank From wilde at sha-bang.de Sat Sep 17 15:01:34 2011 From: wilde at sha-bang.de (Sascha Wilde) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:01:34 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 Message-ID: Hello *, the conference hotel is uhm, a little high price (224,- inc. breakfast is the lowest offer) -- so I wonder if there are any good alternatives within in (best short) walking distance. Might the NH Tropen (Linnaeusstraat, 2c -- still not cheap but 22% less) be an option? Any other recommendations would be highly welcome! What about parking options at/near the hotels and the meeting? Another concern of mine is the dinner at Saturday: - I haven't seen any information on when the dinner starts, as I'm not taking part in the guided tour, when will we meet at the Brasserie Harkema? - What is the best way to get to and from the Brasserie Harkema? Parking seems to be a big issue in Amsterdam and driving a car is incompatible to most convenient beverage... once again any hints are highly appreciated! cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde Well, *my* brain likes to think it's vastly more powerful than any finite Turing machine but it hasn't proven that to me... -- Christopher Koppler in comp.lang.lisp From hans.huebner at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 15:37:13 2011 From: hans.huebner at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hans_H=FCbner?=) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:37:13 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sascha, from my experience, getting around in Amsterdam is very easy by Tram. There is no need to choose a Hotel very close to the conference venue, as you can get there easily by public transport. You can also rent a bike. I'd not try to use the car - Parking space is rare and costly, and chances are that you'll have to walk quite a bit when you've finally found a slot that you can stay in. Acceptable lodging starts at 100 Euro per night, not including breakfast. Cheers, Hans On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Sascha Wilde wrote: > Hello *, > > the conference hotel is uhm, a little high price (224,- inc. breakfast > is the lowest offer) -- so I wonder if there are any good alternatives > within in (best short) walking distance. > > Might the NH Tropen (Linnaeusstraat, 2c -- still not cheap but 22% less) > be an option? ?Any other recommendations would be highly welcome! > What about parking options at/near the hotels and the meeting? > > > Another concern of mine is the dinner at Saturday: > > - I haven't seen any information on when the dinner starts, as I'm not > ?taking part in the guided tour, when will we meet at the Brasserie > ?Harkema? > > - What is the best way to get to and from the Brasserie Harkema? > ?Parking seems to be a big issue in Amsterdam and driving a car is > ?incompatible to most convenient beverage... > > once again any hints are highly appreciated! > > cheers > sascha > -- > Sascha Wilde > Well, *my* brain likes to think it's vastly more powerful than any > finite Turing machine but it hasn't proven that to me... > ?-- Christopher Koppler in comp.lang.lisp > > _______________________________________________ > eclm mailing list > eclm at common-lisp.net > http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/eclm > From wilde at sha-bang.de Sat Sep 17 17:33:30 2011 From: wilde at sha-bang.de (Sascha Wilde) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:33:30 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: ("Hans \=\?utf-8\?Q\?H\=C3\=BCbner\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:37:13 +0200") References: Message-ID: Hi Hans, thanks for your kind reply. Hans H?bner wrote: > from my experience, getting around in Amsterdam is very easy by Tram. > There is no need to choose a Hotel very close to the conference venue, > as you can get there easily by public transport. Sounds good, is there an internet site (preferably in English) where I can get reliable information on routs using public transport? Seems google maps does so, but I'm not sure if it can be trusted (and of cause schedule is missing)... cheers sascha > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Sascha Wilde wrote: >> Hello *, >> >> the conference hotel is uhm, a little high price (224,- inc. breakfast >> is the lowest offer) -- so I wonder if there are any good alternatives >> within in (best short) walking distance. >> >> Might the NH Tropen (Linnaeusstraat, 2c -- still not cheap but 22% less) >> be an option? ?Any other recommendations would be highly welcome! >> What about parking options at/near the hotels and the meeting? >> >> >> Another concern of mine is the dinner at Saturday: >> >> - I haven't seen any information on when the dinner starts, as I'm not >> ?taking part in the guided tour, when will we meet at the Brasserie >> ?Harkema? >> >> - What is the best way to get to and from the Brasserie Harkema? >> ?Parking seems to be a big issue in Amsterdam and driving a car is >> ?incompatible to most convenient beverage... >> >> once again any hints are highly appreciated! >> >> cheers >> sascha >> -- >> Sascha Wilde >> Well, *my* brain likes to think it's vastly more powerful than any >> finite Turing machine but it hasn't proven that to me... >> ?-- Christopher Koppler in comp.lang.lisp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eclm mailing list >> eclm at common-lisp.net >> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/eclm >> > > _______________________________________________ > eclm mailing list > eclm at common-lisp.net > http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/eclm > -- Sascha Wilde : The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one : that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found : it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From antekgrzymala at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 17:46:30 2011 From: antekgrzymala at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Antek_Grzyma=C5=82a?=) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:46:30 +0100 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 17-09-2011 17:37 u?ytkownik "Hans H?bner" napisa?: > Hi Sascha, > > from my experience, getting around in Amsterdam is very easy by Tram. > There is no need to choose a Hotel very close to the conference venue, > as you can get there easily by public transport. You can also rent a > bike. I'd not try to use the car - Parking space is rare and costly, > and chances are that you'll have to walk quite a bit when you've > finally found a slot that you can stay in. > > Acceptable lodging starts at 100 Euro per night, not including breakfast. I suggest you give booking.com a chance, I got a very decent offer (sixty five euros for a double room) at the Tulip Inn Riverside hotel or something like that, not that close to the venue but with a very good direct connection by subway. Hth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alemmens at xs4all.nl Sat Sep 17 17:49:48 2011 From: alemmens at xs4all.nl (Arthur Lemmens) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:49:48 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sascha Wilde wrote: > Sounds good, is there an internet site (preferably in English) where I > can get reliable information on routs using public transport? http://journeyplanner.9292.nl/ should be able to tell you how to get from A to B in the Netherlands using public transport. Hotel Arena, where the meeting takes place, is a 5-10 minutes walk from subway station Weesperplein. Arthur From alemmens at xs4all.nl Sat Sep 17 18:06:47 2011 From: alemmens at xs4all.nl (Arthur Lemmens) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:06:47 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sascha Wilde wrote: > Might the NH Tropen (Linnaeusstraat, 2c -- still not cheap but 22% less) > be an option? I've never been there myself, but it looks like a reasonable option to me. It's a nice walk through the Oosterpark away from Hotel Arena, where the meeting takes place. And the tram will take you to the center of Amsterdam in 15 minutes or so. > What about parking options at/near the hotels and the meeting? Generally speaking, parking is difficult and/or expensive in Amsterdam. But NH Tropen mentions that they have a parking. Hotel Arena also has a parking, but I think it's only available for people who stay there. > - I haven't seen any information on when the dinner starts, as I'm not > taking part in the guided tour, when will we meet at the Brasserie > Harkema? We'll post this on the mailing list in, I expect, a week or two. > - What is the best way to get to and from the Brasserie Harkema? Brasserie Harkema is within walking distance (5-15 minutes) from subway stations Waterlooplein, Nieuwmarkt and Centraal Station. Waterlooplein also has a big parking, by the way. > Parking seems to be a big issue in Amsterdam and driving a car is > incompatible to most convenient beverage... Right. Then again, public transport is reasonably good until midnight or so (and taxis are rather expensive). Arthur From hans.huebner at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 18:14:10 2011 From: hans.huebner at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hans_H=FCbner?=) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:14:10 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Sascha Wilde wrote: > Sounds good, is there an internet site (preferably in English) where I > can get reliable information on routs using public transport? ?Seems > google maps does so, but I'm not sure if it can be trusted (and of cause > schedule is missing)... http://www.gvb.nl/ENGLISH/Pages/default.aspx -Hans From alemmens at xs4all.nl Sat Sep 17 18:53:53 2011 From: alemmens at xs4all.nl (Arthur Lemmens) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:53:53 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sascha Wilde wrote: > the conference hotel is uhm, a little high price (224,- inc. breakfast > is the lowest offer) You can try the ECLM group booking for a lower price: go to http://www.hotelarena.nl/index.php?do=content&id=18&lang=eng, click on 'Online reservation', select 'Groups' from the menu, enter 'zaterdag' for Saturday night or 'zondag' for Sunday night, and you should get a better price than 224 EUR. Arthur From edi at weitz.de Sat Sep 17 19:00:50 2011 From: edi at weitz.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:00:50 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Sascha Wilde wrote: > Might the NH Tropen (Linnaeusstraat, 2c -- still not cheap but 22% less) > be an option? ?Any other recommendations would be highly welcome! > What about parking options at/near the hotels and the meeting? I was at the NH Tropen in 2004. That's a while ago, but I guess it hasn't changed much. It's a typical middle-class chain hotel - a bit boring, but OK. And yes, they did have a parking lot at that time. Edi. From wilde at sha-bang.de Sat Sep 17 22:05:34 2011 From: wilde at sha-bang.de (Sascha Wilde) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:05:34 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Questions regarding accommodation and parking on ECLM 2011 In-Reply-To: (Sascha Wilde's message of "Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:01:34 +0200") References: Message-ID: Many thanks to everybody for all the helpful replies! see you in Amsterdam... cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde : "There are 10 types of people in the world. : Those who understand binary and those who don't." From edi at weitz.de Tue Sep 20 10:50:18 2011 From: edi at weitz.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:50:18 +0200 Subject: [eclm] ECLM 2011 deadline extension Message-ID: Hi everybody, We've had a lot of additional registrations for the European Common Lisp Meeting 2011 since we sent our email a week ago and if everybody who has registered by now actually participates, we'll not end up with a loss or only with a very small one. Still, we wouldn't mind if a few more people would come and therefore we decided to extend the registration period a bit. You can now register until October 1 before the registration process is really closed for good. See for all the details. Also, there were a couple of people who spontaneously offered to send donations after we announced our potential loss. That was very kind and we're grateful for these offers - thanks a lot! Luckily, it looks like we won't need the money. Looking forward to seeing you all in Amsterdam, Arthur & Edi. From alemmens at xs4all.nl Mon Sep 26 11:47:52 2011 From: alemmens at xs4all.nl (Arthur Lemmens) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:47:52 +0200 Subject: [eclm] Saturday excursion and dinner Message-ID: Hi everybody, We now know the starting time for the events on Saturday (October 22): - The excursion (a walk through Amsterdam with a guide) will start at 14:00 on Dam Square. It will last approximately 2 hours. - Dinner at Brasserie Harkema (http://www.brasserieharkema.nl/?lang=en) will start at 19:00. (Of course we'll also add this information to http://weitz.de/eclm2011/.) Arthur From alemmens at xs4all.nl Fri Sep 30 16:14:34 2011 From: alemmens at xs4all.nl (Arthur Lemmens) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:14:34 +0200 Subject: [eclm] ECLM registration deadline Message-ID: Hi everybody, We have 91 registrations for the European Common Lisp Meeting now. See http://eclm.eurolisp.org/ for a list of them. If you haven't registered yet, please note that the registration deadline is tomorrow. You can register at http://weitz.de/eclm2011/ . Edi & Arthur