<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 1 Nov 2006, at 16:50, Attila Lendvai wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><DIV style=""><DIV><SPAN class="q"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <SPAN style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"> <DIV><DIV>as a small return, please find a patch for closer-mop attached that adds this information in a file called mop-tips.txt<BR></DIV></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>This is a great idea.<BR></DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR></DIV></SPAN><DIV>I don't want to make such tips part of the Closer to MOP distribution, but would prefer this to be a separate document. I'm thinking about a "design patterns"-style collection of CLOS MOP idioms. </DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>i tough of this because locality of related information is a good thing and people plaing with the mop most probably will use closer-mop. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I feel flattered that you say this, but I don't think that's true. ;) Secondly, the long-term goal of Closer to MOP is to become unnecessary. My hope is that sooner or later, the CLOS MOP is specified and implemented well enough that you don't need a compatibility layer anymore.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Pascal</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">but otherwise any location is fine for me as long as it's easy to find. a cliki page is probably the best alternative then. <BR><BR>MOP-design-patterns linked from MOP?<BR><BR>-- <BR>- attila<BR><BR>"- The truth is that I've been too considerate, and so became unintentionally cruel...<BR> - I understand.<BR> - No, you don't understand! We don't speak the same language!" <BR>(Ingmar Bergman - Smultronstället)</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>-- </DIV><DIV>Pascal Costanza, <A href="mailto:pc@p-cos.net">mailto:pc@p-cos.net</A>, <A href="http://p-cos.net">http://p-cos.net</A></DIV><DIV>Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Programming Technology Lab</DIV><DIV>Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussel, Belgium</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>