<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Sure, go ahead, fine with me.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—Guy</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 25, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Dave Cooper <<a href="mailto:david.cooper@genworks.com" class="">david.cooper@genworks.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Dear Mr. Steele,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for securing the rights to your logo from "the Little Lisper" and granting them for use by the Common Lisp Foundation and on <a href="http://common-lisp.net/" class="">common-lisp.net</a>. You can see the current state of things on <a href="http://common-lisp.net/" class="">http://common-lisp.net</a>. We hope you find our current use of the logo to be appropriate. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There has been some discussion of "morphing" this logo into something a bit more CL-specific (e.g. morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something resembling a "C"), for use by the CL community, and to represent the CL language in general. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Would you have any issues with us going ahead and working on a derivative? Of course I think you should be entitled to have veto power over any proposed alternatives we come up with. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best Regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Dave Cooper</div><div class=""> Secretary, Common Lisp Foundation</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">P.S. if you would like to follow the discussion in more detail, please feel free to join the mailing list <a href="mailto:clo-devel@common-lisp.net" class="">clo-devel@common-lisp.net</a> (if you're not already on it ;):</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> <a href="https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/clo-devel" class="">https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/clo-devel</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Dave Cooper <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:david.cooper@genworks.com" target="_blank" class="">david.cooper@genworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="">Hi Cherie,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Have you been following this discussion? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What do you think of forking something a bit more CL-specific off of Guy Steele's double-lambda logo (for CLF as well as for use on <a href="http://common-lisp.net/" target="_blank" class="">common-lisp.net</a>) (see below)? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please advise,<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Dave</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">P.S. For those of you on clo-devel who don't know Cherie Yang, she is the designer-in-chief for <a href="http://common-lisp.net/" target="_blank" class="">common-lisp.net</a>. The reported stylesheet issue would also be of interest to Cheryl, if she hasn't seen that yet. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Max Rottenkolber <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:max@mr.gy" target="_blank" class="">max@mr.gy</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:56:44 -0400, Dave Cooper wrote:<br class="">
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>> > Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have<br class="">
>> > a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that<br class="">
>> > exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think <a href="http://common-lisp.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">common-lisp.net</a> could use one<br class="">
>> > especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the<br class="">
>> > CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what<br class="">
>> > should/could be in a CL logo?<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>><br class="">
><br class="">
> The rights to the logo currently being used at <a href="http://common-lisp.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">common-lisp.net</a> (attached)<br class="">
> were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may recognize<br class="">
> this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper.<br class="">
><br class="">
> I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp."<br class="">
><br class="">
> How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something like a<br class="">
> "C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of<br class="">
> letter "L") ?<br class="">
<br class="">
</span>I had the same idea in fact, but I realized that my graphics skills are<br class="">
not sufficient to produce an acceptable result. ;) I had the following<br class="">
idea: Why not organize a public submission period and then hold a public<br class="">
poll to find a canonical logo? I imagine it like this:<br class="">
<br class="">
1. Provide a trusted public submission portal (e.g. “mail your<br class="">
submission to <a href="mailto:logos@common-lisp.net" target="_blank" class="">logos@common-lisp.net</a>”).<br class="">
2. Announce submission deadline on all public CL forums (mailing lists,<br class="">
nntp, reddit, planet lisp, ...)<br class="">
3. Hold a public poll on the submitted logos (again announce on all<br class="">
forums)<br class="">
4. Declare the most popular the new community logo<br class="">
<br class="">
I would volunteer to organize the process, and I think <a href="http://c-l.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">c-l.net</a> is in a<br class="">
position to provide the necesary “neutral ground”. I think there are some<br class="">
benefits to this approach as we can outsource the graphical talent and<br class="">
get a result that the community decided on. :)<br class="">
<br class="">
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