<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Dear Mr. Steele,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for securing the rights to your logo from "the Little Lisper" and granting them for use by the Common Lisp Foundation and on <a href="http://common-lisp.net">common-lisp.net</a>. You can see the current state of things on <a href="http://common-lisp.net">http://common-lisp.net</a>. We hope you find our current use of the logo to be appropriate. </div><div><br></div><div>There has been some discussion of "morphing" this logo into something a bit more CL-specific (e.g. morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something resembling a "C"), for use by the CL community, and to represent the CL language in general. </div><div><br></div><div>Would you have any issues with us going ahead and working on a derivative? Of course I think you should be entitled to have veto power over any proposed alternatives we come up with. </div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><div> Dave Cooper</div><div> Secretary, Common Lisp Foundation</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. if you would like to follow the discussion in more detail, please feel free to join the mailing list <a href="mailto:clo-devel@common-lisp.net">clo-devel@common-lisp.net</a> (if you're not already on it ;):</div><div><br></div><div> <a href="https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/clo-devel">https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/clo-devel</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Dave Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.cooper@genworks.com" target="_blank">david.cooper@genworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Hi Cherie,</div><div><br></div><div>Have you been following this discussion? </div><div><br></div><div>What do you think of forking something a bit more CL-specific off of Guy Steele's double-lambda logo (for CLF as well as for use on <a href="http://common-lisp.net" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a>) (see below)? </div><div><br></div><div>Please advise,<br></div><div><br></div><div> Dave</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>P.S. For those of you on clo-devel who don't know Cherie Yang, she is the designer-in-chief for <a href="http://common-lisp.net" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a>. The reported stylesheet issue would also be of interest to Cheryl, if she hasn't seen that yet. <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Max Rottenkolber <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:max@mr.gy" target="_blank">max@mr.gy</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:56:44 -0400, Dave Cooper wrote:<br>
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>> > Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have<br>
>> > a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that<br>
>> > exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think <a href="http://common-lisp.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a> could use one<br>
>> > especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the<br>
>> > CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what<br>
>> > should/could be in a CL logo?<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
><br>
> The rights to the logo currently being used at <a href="http://common-lisp.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">common-lisp.net</a> (attached)<br>
> were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may recognize<br>
> this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper.<br>
><br>
> I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp."<br>
><br>
> How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something like a<br>
> "C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of<br>
> letter "L") ?<br>
<br>
</span>I had the same idea in fact, but I realized that my graphics skills are<br>
not sufficient to produce an acceptable result. ;) I had the following<br>
idea: Why not organize a public submission period and then hold a public<br>
poll to find a canonical logo? I imagine it like this:<br>
<br>
1. Provide a trusted public submission portal (e.g. “mail your<br>
submission to <a href="mailto:logos@common-lisp.net" target="_blank">logos@common-lisp.net</a>”).<br>
2. Announce submission deadline on all public CL forums (mailing lists,<br>
nntp, reddit, planet lisp, ...)<br>
3. Hold a public poll on the submitted logos (again announce on all<br>
forums)<br>
4. Declare the most popular the new community logo<br>
<br>
I would volunteer to organize the process, and I think <a href="http://c-l.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">c-l.net</a> is in a<br>
position to provide the necesary “neutral ground”. I think there are some<br>
benefits to this approach as we can outsource the graphical talent and<br>
get a result that the community decided on. :)<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="">My Best,<br><br>Dave Cooper<br><a href="http://genworks.com" target="_blank">genworks.com</a>, <a href="http://gendl.org" target="_blank">gendl.org</a><br></span><a href="tel:%2B1%20248-330-2979" value="+12483302979" target="_blank">+1 248-330-2979</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>My Best,<br><br>Dave Cooper<br><a href="http://genworks.com" target="_blank">genworks.com</a>, <a href="http://gendl.org" target="_blank">gendl.org</a><br>+1 248-330-2979<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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