<div dir="ltr">Hi Nikodemus, all,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Nikodemus Siivola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nikodemus@random-state.net" target="_blank">nikodemus@random-state.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 10 April 2013 11:04, Erik Huelsmann <<a href="mailto:ehuels@gmail.com">ehuels@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> We use ssi as well. Please provide it. Starting php for every page view just<br>
> to include the common page elements is overkill.<br>
<br>
</div>I think the default page template also used them... so many projects<br>
have inherited those usages.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>There's a problem here: a guy from irc (he's called asedeno) repaired nearly all services (suppored by fare) on the box apart from mail and mailing lists (at least, that's my understanding). Drew set up NGINX, but after some criticism of his approach of the migration/uprade he was doing, he left #<a href="http://common-lisp.net">common-lisp.net</a> a few days ago and hasn't been seen around since then.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>The problem this poses is that there's now a vacuum: there's nobody to call shots on which technology is being used and/or replaced (nobody wants to remove things Drew set up, since he sank so much time in it, nor does anybody know of his plans other than vagueries).</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>While some projects are returning to the box again, I'm personally very hesitant: there was no community process involved when Drew decided to replace the mailing list software and the mailer on the box as well as the web server technology. Who decides what's broken because they don't like the technology next time?</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I'm thinking hard how to solve this, but I don't really see any obvious ways out. Do you?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Just so that there are roses as well: like to new frontpage -- even<br>
though given it's placeholder nature! Come to think of it, Abhishek<br>
Reddy's Features of Common Lisp might fit on the new page pretty<br>
nicely (<a href="http://random-state.net/features-of-common-lisp.html" target="_blank">http://random-state.net/features-of-common-lisp.html</a>)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style> True, but if the issue is the front page, then why not address that, instead of changing the mailer and the MTA?</div>
</div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Bye,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Erik.</div></div>