RFC: Future of lisppaste
ehuels at gmail.com
Sat Sep 9 21:45:17 UTC 2017
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Anton Vodonosov <avodonosov at yandex.ru>
> The tar.gz is unavailable too.
> The project homepage referred from http://paste.lisp.org/ contains only
> invalid links.
Which is an indication of the need for maintenance, I guess.
> Logging through ssh I found this:
> ls -l /project/lisppaste/public_html/lisppaste2.3.tar.gz
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 bmastenbrook lisppaste 42 Sep 25 2008
> /project/lisppaste/public_html/lisppaste2.3.tar.gz ->
> But the /project/lisppaste/ftp/ referred to by this symlink doesn't exist.
Stas rewrote the code to use Hunchentoot (originally the code used
Araneida). The new hunchentoot-based code is in one of his repositories:
> 09.09.2017, 23:47, "Anton Vodonosov" <avodonosov at yandex.ru>:
> Off topic: is the source code only available as lisppaste2.3.tar.gz or is
> there a source control repository available online with a later version?
> I'm asking not for the sake of future support - I used it only once or
> twice and there are other pastebins in case lisppaste is disabled.
> Just wanted to look through the code - maybe it has useful bits for other
> Best regards,
> - Anton
> 09.09.2017, 20:02, "Erik Huelsmann" <ehuels at gmail.com>:
> In the early days of web popularity, a very nice irc-bot+paste engine was
> developed, allowing discussion on IRC to be very nicely combined with paste
> sharing to help the discussion. It was written in lisp and given the nice
> name of "lisppaste".
> While the idea was great to start out, in its grand days, the bot even
> joined over 60 channels(!), it has gradually seen increases in abuse;
> initially "just" to spam IRC channels (which caused the bot to be removed
> from all channels, loosing most of its usefulness), later with lots of
> inappropriate content being posted.
> Various measures were taken over time to reduce the attractiveness of
> posting to lisppaste:
> * disabling of the XML-RPC api (which integrated with emacs!)
> * removal from the IRC channels
> * addition of a captcha
> up to most recently even:
> * removal of the listing of posts
> While the last measure was hoped to take care of the last incentive to
> post to lisppaste, it seems that links to the inappropriate content are
> posted elsewhere -- eliminating the need to list the pastes.
> With the majority of pastes being irrelevant to lisppaste's purpose
> (supporting programmers discussing their code in IRC or other channels),
> because they're inappropriate content of some kind or another, my question
> to you all is:
> What should we do with lisppaste? Should we simply remove it from the web?
> Should we put it in read-only mode* (so as to maintain the archive of
> relevant pastes)? Or are there other options? E.g. someone who wants to
> adopt lisppaste and invest the time and energy to implement measures to
> fight the spam and implement measures to discourage or disable posting of
> inappropriate content?
> * If we put it in read-only mode, it's my opinion that the existing
> inappropriate content should still be cleaned. Any contributions to that
> effect would still be greatly appreciated.
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