Working on system upgrade

Mark Evenson evenson at
Tue Jun 20 13:21:34 UTC 2017

On 6/20/17 11:54, Erik Huelsmann wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Mark Evenson <evenson at> wrote:
>> On 6/18/17 15:38, Erik Huelsmann wrote:
>> […]
>>> I've removed quite a few packages indeed (from the current production
>>> system, that is): all packages related to the X11 (server) have been
>>> removed. So have most LaTeX and LuaTeX packages. The idea behind this
>> step
>>> is that the access provided by is merely provided to
>>> support uploading and maintaining the static html pages -- my assumption
>> is
>>> that that has little relationship to being able to start a desktop
>>> environment or graphics environment.
>>> If you miss packages that you depend on, don't hesitate to speak up.
>> Please
>>> explain what you need them for and I'll make them available again.
>> […]
>> I appreciate the effort to get to Debian Stretch, but
>> also functions as a shell host
> Indeed I have noticed some very-long running sessions on your account in
> the past. Looking at the page which lists services to our projects (
>, I think your use of the host is
> unsupported (as in: I can't find it as a listed service). We currently use
> shell sessions to run lisppaste and cliki, but I think that with the
> introduction of `systemd`, we can probably move those to be run as "user
> services" instead. Based on that, I was expecting the system not to have
> long-running shell sessions anymore.

Well, I need a shell host to perform tasks for
maintainence.  As such, I install tools I can't get from Debian in
<file://>.  screen I know, so
please retain.


> Can I ask in what way the shell sessions you use need to be a generic
> service to support the common lisp community (and what role does GCC play
> in it)?

Maintaining support via IRC channels, and being able to answer the
occacsional support request in the same Emacs.


"A screaming comes across the sky.  It has happened before, but there
is nothing to compare to it now."

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