From tcr at freebits.de  Sun Mar 16 22:18:00 2008
From: tcr at freebits.de (Tobias C. Rittweiler)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:18:00 +0100
Subject: [climacs-devel] Inspector-Hook
Message-ID: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>


Hi,

I have been in a position today where I really wished a way to inspect
an object from within a function contour. However, I find the native
inspector of SBCL not really convenient, and would have really liked if
(inspect foo) would pop up the Slime inspector.

For this, I'd like to write a short CDR proposing an *INSPECTOR-HOOK*
that works very similiarly to *DEBUGGER-HOOK*. 

Has any Climacs hacker thought about this issue before? Does Climacs
contain any trick given its strong OO nature?

  -T.



From athas at sigkill.dk  Sun Mar 16 22:58:16 2008
From: athas at sigkill.dk (Troels Henriksen)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:58:16 +0100
Subject: [climacs-devel] Inspector-Hook
In-Reply-To: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de> (Tobias C. Rittweiler's message of
	"Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:18:00 +0100")
References: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>
Message-ID: <874pb6qnsn.fsf@lambda.athas.dyndns.dk>

"Tobias C. Rittweiler" <tcr at freebits.de> writes:

> Has any Climacs hacker thought about this issue before? Does Climacs
> contain any trick given its strong OO nature?

No, we just call CLOUSEAU:INSPECTOR.

An inspector hook sounds like a fair idea, though.

-- 
\  Troels
/\ Henriksen


From nikodemus at random-state.net  Mon Mar 17 11:07:41 2008
From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:07:41 +0200
Subject: [climacs-devel] Inspector-Hook
In-Reply-To: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>
References: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>
Message-ID: <633d72b0803170407l517695f3t16ce8d1c858bc65a@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Tobias C. Rittweiler <tcr at freebits.de> wrote:

>  I have been in a position today where I really wished a way to inspect
>  an object from within a function contour. However, I find the native
>  inspector of SBCL not really convenient, and would have really liked if
>  (inspect foo) would pop up the Slime inspector.

FWIW, you can use SB-IMPL::*INSPECT-HOOK* for this.

>  For this, I'd like to write a short CDR proposing an *INSPECTOR-HOOK*
>  that works very similiarly to *DEBUGGER-HOOK*.

...but a CDR would indeed be nice!

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus


From tcr at freebits.de  Mon Mar 17 12:50:39 2008
From: tcr at freebits.de (Tobias C. Rittweiler)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:50:39 +0100
Subject: [climacs-devel] Re: Inspector-Hook
References: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>
	<633d72b0803170407l517695f3t16ce8d1c858bc65a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8763vlpl9c.fsf@freebits.de>

"Nikodemus Siivola" <nikodemus at random-state.net> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Tobias C. Rittweiler <tcr at freebits.de> wrote:
>
> >  I have been in a position today where I really wished a way to inspect
> >  an object from within a function contour. However, I find the native
> >  inspector of SBCL not really convenient, and would have really liked if
> >  (inspect foo) would pop up the Slime inspector.
>
> FWIW, you can use SB-IMPL::*INSPECT-HOOK* for this.

ITYM *INSPECT-FUN*, didn't you?

  -T.



From nikodemus at random-state.net  Mon Mar 17 13:06:50 2008
From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:06:50 +0200
Subject: [climacs-devel] Re: Inspector-Hook
In-Reply-To: <8763vlpl9c.fsf@freebits.de>
References: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>
	<633d72b0803170407l517695f3t16ce8d1c858bc65a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8763vlpl9c.fsf@freebits.de>
Message-ID: <633d72b0803170606p334236c8o4bd588831a265c62@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Tobias C. Rittweiler <tcr at freebits.de> wrote:

>  > FWIW, you can use SB-IMPL::*INSPECT-HOOK* for this.
>
>  ITYM *INSPECT-FUN*, didn't you?

Yes, oops! I blame trying to lay off coffee.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus


From tcr at freebits.de  Thu Mar 20 01:20:06 2008
From: tcr at freebits.de (Tobias C. Rittweiler)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:20:06 +0100
Subject: [climacs-devel] Re: Inspector-Hook
References: <87hcf6gvon.fsf@freebits.de>
Message-ID: <874pb2p4xl.fsf@freebits.de>

"Tobias C. Rittweiler" <tcr at freebits.de> writes:

> For this, I'd like to write a short CDR proposing an *INSPECTOR-HOOK*
> that works very similiarly to *DEBUGGER-HOOK*. 

A draft of the proposal can be found at

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cdr.general/101

Comments should go to cdr-discuss mailinglist.

  -T.