From glen at empireenterprises.com  Mon Aug  1 07:26:28 2011
From: glen at empireenterprises.com (Glen)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:26:28 -0700
Subject: [cl-who-devel] macroexpansion
Message-ID: <CAMVDUtE0sMh4cge_yxhOE48r0PaHMt4cmMAzaaZFQGB8Z16StA@mail.gmail.com>

Are there any plans to include the suggestions at
http://lisp-univ-etc.blogspot.com/2009/03/cl-who-macros.html in the
main release?



From vseloved at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 07:34:20 2011
From: vseloved at gmail.com (Vsevolod Dyomkin)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:34:20 +0300
Subject: [cl-who-devel] macroexpansion
In-Reply-To: <CAMVDUtE0sMh4cge_yxhOE48r0PaHMt4cmMAzaaZFQGB8Z16StA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMVDUtE0sMh4cge_yxhOE48r0PaHMt4cmMAzaaZFQGB8Z16StA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABhNRBa253tQ5H0RmfsZvsOybF9S1CHtfXaRkFRpmsBHWaC01A@mail.gmail.com>

If you need these changes, the forked version is here:
https://github.com/vseloved/cl-who

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Glen <glen at empireenterprises.com> wrote:

> Are there any plans to include the suggestions at
> http://lisp-univ-etc.blogspot.com/2009/03/cl-who-macros.html in the
> main release?
>
> _______________________________________________
> cl-who-devel site list
> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
>
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From glen at empireenterprises.com  Mon Aug  1 07:37:29 2011
From: glen at empireenterprises.com (Glen)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:37:29 -0700
Subject: [cl-who-devel] macroexpansion
In-Reply-To: <CABhNRBa253tQ5H0RmfsZvsOybF9S1CHtfXaRkFRpmsBHWaC01A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMVDUtE0sMh4cge_yxhOE48r0PaHMt4cmMAzaaZFQGB8Z16StA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABhNRBa253tQ5H0RmfsZvsOybF9S1CHtfXaRkFRpmsBHWaC01A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMVDUtH=X3_CeA=oWSPntbaWnpHbwkM9xHifU2_cgaft_8ZmVw@mail.gmail.com>

Super.  Now if you get that installable via quicklisp you'll be my hero.


On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Vsevolod Dyomkin <vseloved at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you need these changes, the forked version is
> here:?https://github.com/vseloved/cl-who
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Glen <glen at empireenterprises.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are there any plans to include the suggestions at
>> http://lisp-univ-etc.blogspot.com/2009/03/cl-who-macros.html in the
>> main release?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cl-who-devel site list
>> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cl-who-devel site list
> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
>



From vseloved at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 07:53:51 2011
From: vseloved at gmail.com (Vsevolod Dyomkin)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:53:51 +0300
Subject: [cl-who-devel] macroexpansion
In-Reply-To: <CAMVDUtH=X3_CeA=oWSPntbaWnpHbwkM9xHifU2_cgaft_8ZmVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMVDUtE0sMh4cge_yxhOE48r0PaHMt4cmMAzaaZFQGB8Z16StA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABhNRBa253tQ5H0RmfsZvsOybF9S1CHtfXaRkFRpmsBHWaC01A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMVDUtH=X3_CeA=oWSPntbaWnpHbwkM9xHifU2_cgaft_8ZmVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABhNRBYHmPeYjX_wGUmWG9Ri_Zohfz4aJHeO0pdcf-K4pR_4-w@mail.gmail.com>

you can open an issue here:
https://github.com/quicklisp/quicklisp-projects/issues and discuss it
directly with
xach

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Glen <glen at empireenterprises.com> wrote:

> Super.  Now if you get that installable via quicklisp you'll be my hero.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Vsevolod Dyomkin <vseloved at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If you need these changes, the forked version is
> > here: https://github.com/vseloved/cl-who
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Glen <glen at empireenterprises.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there any plans to include the suggestions at
> >> http://lisp-univ-etc.blogspot.com/2009/03/cl-who-macros.html in the
> >> main release?
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> cl-who-devel site list
> >> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> >> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cl-who-devel site list
> > cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> cl-who-devel site list
> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
>
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From sebyte at smolny.plus.com  Mon Aug  1 18:23:15 2011
From: sebyte at smolny.plus.com (Sebastian Tennant)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:23:15 +0000
Subject: [cl-who-devel] Interpolate lisp code inside the tag body
References: <CALvESw7WAyQRJs2axBqtxJf=h+asB=tdrGn_DE91h25CW7BF-Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALvESw4zMeEDjwOp-yxWE6HngfBBqaiawzrrpzmwcoPm94AVfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62mhf0to.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>

Quoth Matus Kmit <simply.nitaai at gmail.com>:
> Does that mean that one should use only with-html-output-to-string for
> publishing

Yes.  Let's say your dispatch handler (a hunchentoot term) calls function
home-page, then home-page should look like this:

(defun home-page ()
  (with-html-output-to-string (*http-stream*)
    (:p ...)
    ...))

where *http-stream* is defined as a special variable, like so:

(defun *http-stream* nil)

Now, let's assume home-page includes a call to function navbar.

navbar doesn't need to use w-h-o-t-s.  This will suffice:

(defun (navbar ()
  (with-html-output (*http-stream*)
    (:div :id "navbar" ...)
    ...))

In short, only the 'top-level' function called by your dispatch handler
needs to use w-h-o-t-s.

Hope this helps.

Sebastian




From simply.nitaai at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 20:42:00 2011
From: simply.nitaai at gmail.com (Matus Kmit)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:42:00 +0200
Subject: [cl-who-devel] Interpolate lisp code inside the tag body
In-Reply-To: <62mhf0to.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>
References: <CALvESw7WAyQRJs2axBqtxJf=h+asB=tdrGn_DE91h25CW7BF-Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALvESw4zMeEDjwOp-yxWE6HngfBBqaiawzrrpzmwcoPm94AVfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<62mhf0to.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>
Message-ID: <CALvESw47nb2ov0iGDxAHBakjwjkhzTX=wEgQSCZynQW+z+7Heg@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent. THANKS.

Matus

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Sebastian Tennant
<sebyte at smolny.plus.com> wrote:
> Quoth Matus Kmit <simply.nitaai at gmail.com>:
>> Does that mean that one should use only with-html-output-to-string for
>> publishing
>
> Yes. ?Let's say your dispatch handler (a hunchentoot term) calls function
> home-page, then home-page should look like this:
>
> (defun home-page ()
> ?(with-html-output-to-string (*http-stream*)
> ? ?(:p ...)
> ? ?...))
>
> where *http-stream* is defined as a special variable, like so:
>
> (defun *http-stream* nil)
>
> Now, let's assume home-page includes a call to function navbar.
>
> navbar doesn't need to use w-h-o-t-s. ?This will suffice:
>
> (defun (navbar ()
> ?(with-html-output (*http-stream*)
> ? ?(:div :id "navbar" ...)
> ? ?...))
>
> In short, only the 'top-level' function called by your dispatch handler
> needs to use w-h-o-t-s.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cl-who-devel site list
> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
>



From sebyte at smolny.plus.com  Thu Aug  4 11:46:03 2011
From: sebyte at smolny.plus.com (Sebastian Tennant)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:46:03 +0000
Subject: [cl-who-devel] Interpolate lisp code inside the tag body
References: <CALvESw7WAyQRJs2axBqtxJf=h+asB=tdrGn_DE91h25CW7BF-Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALvESw4zMeEDjwOp-yxWE6HngfBBqaiawzrrpzmwcoPm94AVfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<62mhf0to.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>
	<CALvESw47nb2ov0iGDxAHBakjwjkhzTX=wEgQSCZynQW+z+7Heg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <k4atcsck.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>

Quoth Matus Kmit <simply.nitaai at gmail.com>:
> Excellent. THANKS.

I hope you spotted my deliberate mistake.

Special variables are declared with defvar (not defun).

Sebastian




From simply.nitaai at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 12:03:25 2011
From: simply.nitaai at gmail.com (Matus Kmit)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:03:25 +0200
Subject: [cl-who-devel] Interpolate lisp code inside the tag body
In-Reply-To: <k4atcsck.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>
References: <CALvESw7WAyQRJs2axBqtxJf=h+asB=tdrGn_DE91h25CW7BF-Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALvESw4zMeEDjwOp-yxWE6HngfBBqaiawzrrpzmwcoPm94AVfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<62mhf0to.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>
	<CALvESw47nb2ov0iGDxAHBakjwjkhzTX=wEgQSCZynQW+z+7Heg@mail.gmail.com>
	<k4atcsck.fsf@chimera.gnukahvesi.net>
Message-ID: <CALvESw4FUXTCZcW5CQEzZGoyYjMjmywvNwFvb=rrHfiSj9d3PA@mail.gmail.com>

i wondered, but thought it might be another of lisp's elastic
features, known only to the advanced lisp hackers :-)

Matus

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Sebastian Tennant
<sebyte at smolny.plus.com> wrote:
> Quoth Matus Kmit <simply.nitaai at gmail.com>:
>> Excellent. THANKS.
>
> I hope you spotted my deliberate mistake.
>
> Special variables are declared with defvar (not defun).
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cl-who-devel site list
> cl-who-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cl-who-devel
>



From edi at agharta.de  Wed Aug 31 15:11:30 2011
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:11:30 +0200
Subject: [cl-who-devel] My open source libraries (aka "ediware")
Message-ID: <CAD3YvRXkPaYD_S_nyYK_qZcQ9-2wnVM6YUv74mrC3B8_NiZh-A@mail.gmail.com>

[My apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email.]


Hi everybody!

As some of you will know, I'll start on a new job tomorrow.  This new
job won't involve much hacking, if at all, and thus it doesn't look
like I'll have a lot of time to maintain my open source libraries in
the near future.  I have no plans to suddenly disappear from the CL
world, but don't expect new releases of any of my libs any time soon.
(At least none published by me or on my server.)

Luckily, Hans H?bner - who already did most of the maintenance and
development work for Hunchentoot in the last two years or so - offered
to coordinate further development via github.  See his full
announcement at
<http://netzhansa.blogspot.com/2011/08/ediware-moving-to-github.html>.

I'll continue to read the mailing lists for my libs and I'm still
interested in fixing bugs you might find in the release tarballs
available on my web server.  However, I will likely not bother to
discuss or work on new features or compatibility code for
implementations other than LispWorks (which happens to be the one I'm
using).

Lastly, I hope to see a lot of you in Amsterdam
<http://weitz.de/eclm2011/> in October.  The number of registrations
so far has been pretty disappointing, but you still have three weeks
left to change your mind... :)

Take care,
Edi.