From jason at hostedlabs.com Mon Jun 4 16:12:07 2007 From: jason at hostedlabs.com (Jason Rexilius) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:12:07 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] BARcamp Chicago 2007 June 23-24 Message-ID: <466439D7.3040803@hostedlabs.com> Hi Everyone! Wanted to update you all on BARcamp and ask for some feedback. The site (http://barcampchicago.com/) has been updated with the basic info on date and location. Its June 23-24 at 1464 n milwaukee. There are talks scheduled and some events planned but I wanted to ask you all what types of things you might want to see or hear about and to look for volunteers to run some code sprints or other projects. I also wanted to ask people to sign up on the wiki as attendees. I'm a little concerned that we may run out of space even though the venue is bigger than last years. I want to get a feeling for how much need there may be for a "spill over" venue. Looking forward to seeing you all at BARcamp and drop me a line if you have any comments, questions, ideas! -jason From corey.sweeney at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:42:00 2007 From: corey.sweeney at gmail.com (Corey Sweeney) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:42:00 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages Message-ID: I've been thinking about one of the disadvantages of using functional/syntax free languages. In particular, how normally working in a small group can be more helpfull then working alone, but often when using functional or syntax free languages, not many other people know your language. I was wondering how many other people are working in isolation in thier lisp or functional programming projects, and what we could do about it. Perhaps some kind of weekly private irc meeting, or voice over IP meeting, or something like that... A place where we could trade ideas, and review each others code? Part of this would depend on how many people are using the language at work, and how many employers are willing to have company code seen outside the company. How many other people are working in isolation? What ideas does everyone else have? Corey -- ((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y))) From jquigley at jquigley.com Mon Jun 11 01:03:06 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:03:06 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Updates: website, meeting, BarCamp Message-ID: <466C9F4A.5000202@jquigley.com> Folks: We've grown quiet here again, and I think we should push for another meeting. First, let me inform you that I've been working towards a website for us on my end: http://www.chicagolisp.org/ Feedback, or help in any form, would be greatly appreciated. You'll notice a big section entitled "Articles." I'd love to post articles that our community writes here. I've asked some people in my language design research group to help on this, and there's decided interest. If you've ever had an inclination to formally write on some topic about functional languages/programming (not just Lisp-specific), I'd love to host that article on our site. I'm hosting a Chicago Linux meeting at my company's place of business (Cleversafe, Inc.) this coming Saturday (June 16th at 3p). We're located within a block of the Red (Sox/35th) and Green (IIT/Bronzeville) stops, right on the IIT campus. Let's try to get a Lisp meeting going concurrently, don't you think? What we need is two people will to give a presentation on anything remotely Lisp-related. Interested? Please email the list! Also, please note that BarCamp is coming up http://www.barcampchicago.com/ I'm giving a Lisp presentation on Saturday at 1600 hours: http://www.barcampchicago.com/index.php?wiki=SaturdaysAgenda I think it would be awesome if others signed up to attend - or to speak - if at all possible. I plan on really advertising for the Lisp group, as BarCamp attracts a huge number of people interested in technology. Hope everything is well amongst you all =) Best, John Quigley From mleiseca at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:02:29 2007 From: mleiseca at gmail.com (Michael Leiseca) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41368d640706120902s71122bc3kc29f34f4db09cfd5@mail.gmail.com> That would be great! I just finished a small project in lisp for a course at depaul. As I worked on that project, I wasn't sure if open source projects in lisp that I was trying to use were actually maintained and under active development. Generally, I couldn't find much discussion of what people were using for lisp development. In my case, a lot of it was web development type of stuff. It would also be very helpful for me to have someone else's perspective on my code seeing as how I was alone in my effort. --michael On 6/10/07, Corey Sweeney wrote: > I've been thinking about one of the disadvantages of using > functional/syntax free languages. In particular, how normally working > in a small group can be more helpfull then working alone, but often > when using functional or syntax free languages, not many other people > know your language. > > I was wondering how many other people are working in isolation in > thier lisp or functional programming projects, and what we could do > about it. > > Perhaps some kind of weekly private irc meeting, or voice over IP > meeting, or something like that... A place where we could trade > ideas, and review each others code? Part of this would depend on how > many people are using the language at work, and how many employers are > willing to have company code seen outside the company. > > How many other people are working in isolation? > > What ideas does everyone else have? > > > Corey > > -- > ((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y))) > _______________________________________________ > chicago-lisp site list > chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp > From jquigley at jquigley.com Wed Jun 13 06:35:02 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:35:02 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Chicago Linux Meeting: June 16 Message-ID: <466F9016.7090202@jquigley.com> Folks: The Chicago GNU/Linux Group is meeting on Saturday, June 16, 2007 at 3:00pm. We'll be meeting at the Cleversafe, Inc. offices, right off the red and green lines by US Cellular Field: http://tinyurl.com/2j22sn Our presentations are set to be: * The Falcon Storage Engine (Jess Balint) * Reading and Understanding Software Licensing (Erik Rakoczy) Additionally, we'll be spending time as a group in planning for BarCamp, which is taking place next weekend, and discussing group projects being developed during our weekly code sprints. As always, beer and food are allowed: please come prepared. For further information, visit our homepage or see the meeting agenda: * http://www.chicagolug.org/ * http://www.chicagolug.org/wiki/Agenda20070616 Feel free to call or email me directly with questions or concerns. Best, John Quigley cell 312.351.3671 mail jq at jquigley.com home www.jquigley.com From aray6a at hotmail.com Wed Jun 13 17:27:20 2007 From: aray6a at hotmail.com (Alim Ray) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:27:20 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages Message-ID: I would like to meet... perhaps in person if anyone is downtown. Michael, we were in the same class at DePaul. My presentation/project was called Check Data. Was yours the Recipe Site? Alim >From: "Michael Leiseca" >To: "Corey Sweeney" >CC: chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net >Subject: Re: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free >languages >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500 > >That would be great! I just finished a small project in lisp for a >course at depaul. As I worked on that project, I wasn't sure if open >source projects in lisp that I was trying to use were actually >maintained and under active development. Generally, I couldn't find >much discussion of what people were using for lisp development. In my >case, a lot of it was web development type of stuff. It would also be >very helpful for me to have someone else's perspective on my code >seeing as how I was alone in my effort. > >--michael > >On 6/10/07, Corey Sweeney wrote: >>I've been thinking about one of the disadvantages of using >>functional/syntax free languages. In particular, how normally working >>in a small group can be more helpfull then working alone, but often >>when using functional or syntax free languages, not many other people >>know your language. >> >>I was wondering how many other people are working in isolation in >>thier lisp or functional programming projects, and what we could do >>about it. >> >>Perhaps some kind of weekly private irc meeting, or voice over IP >>meeting, or something like that... A place where we could trade >>ideas, and review each others code? Part of this would depend on how >>many people are using the language at work, and how many employers are >>willing to have company code seen outside the company. >> >>How many other people are working in isolation? >> >>What ideas does everyone else have? >> >> >>Corey >> >>-- >>((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y))) >>_______________________________________________ >>chicago-lisp site list >>chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net >>http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp >> >_______________________________________________ >chicago-lisp site list >chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net >http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine?s 2007 editors? choice for best Web mail?award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 From jquigley at jquigley.com Wed Jun 13 20:32:09 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:32:09 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> Corey Sweeney wrote: > I was wondering how many other people are working in isolation in > thier lisp or functional programming projects, and what we could do > about it. Sorry for my late response. For some reason haven't been receiving mailing list posts for the past few weeks (I believe this to be a problem on common-lisp.net's side). Just today I got a dump of five or so back messages. Did anyone else experience this? More to the point. A group of friends and I have been getting together for a code sprint once a week, at a local coffee shop of our choosing. We've named this very badly: Programming Tonight. We'll be meeting for the entire summer (and probably beyond). We'd love to have you along. I'd love to talk Lisp, though my current project in that context is Python-based. Thoughts? - John Quigley From jquigley at jquigley.com Wed Jun 13 20:40:54 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:40:54 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> References: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> Message-ID: <46705656.6090009@jquigley.com> John Quigley wrote: > More to the point. A group of friends and I have been getting together > for a code sprint once a week, at a local coffee shop of our choosing. I should mention that we all live downtown, so the coffee shops are always very local to the city. We've been frequenting Fixx recently: http://tinyurl.com/2rgxdo We'll be meeting again this coming Friday. I think announcements go out on this channel: https://www.chicagolug.org/lists/listinfo/chicagolinux-dev - John Quigley From jquigley at jquigley.com Wed Jun 13 20:59:09 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:59:09 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> Message-ID: <46705A9D.5080608@jquigley.com> michael bobak wrote: > I had suggested the 'tech-coffee' in my email that didn't go through; > but would probably be more interested in this one. We've modeled this after TechCoffee. Most of us are night-owls so the early morning TechCoffee schedule isn't compatible, if you get my drift. Programming Tonight generally runs from 7p to 12a or so. - John Quigley From jason at hostedlabs.com Mon Jun 18 15:38:19 2007 From: jason at hostedlabs.com (Jason Rexilius) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:38:19 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] BARcamp Chicago is this weekend! In-Reply-To: <51933.68.72.119.127.1182134921.squirrel@acm.cs.uic.edu> References: <51933.68.72.119.127.1182134921.squirrel@acm.cs.uic.edu> Message-ID: <4676A6EB.2060301@hostedlabs.com> Hi Everyone! BARcamp is this weekend (Sat-Sun, 23-24 June) and I am super excited! Everyone has really come together for this. We have a lot of great talks and ideas floating around and everyone seems to be pitching in something to help. The last organizer meet-up is tonight at Goose Island(clyborn) @ 7:00. There are also a couple other events this week worth checking out that I want to mention. Beer and ideas to get primed for BARcamp ;-) - Kristen Nicole's Web Ascent is happening Wed the 20th. http://www.webascentevents.com/ - MIT-EF has this cool Whiteboard competition happening Tue the 19th. http://www.mitefchicago.org/dojo/18/v.jsp?p=/BelowtheRadar Uuhh.. thats all I can remember. Its going to be a fun week in the Chicago tech world.. So back to BARcamp. Some of the stuff that is going to be happening this weekend is: - Dave Williams talk on building cross platform widgets with wxWidgets - FRDCSA A.I. talk on learning coding libraries through operator learning and representation - Linux install fest and lightening talks on a few special purpose distros - Tristan Sloughter teaches us how to Brew Beer at Home! - Kirix talks about their Human UI for browsing web data - MobileWeb 2.0 hackathon, building apps for mobile devices. - Perry spins the trax, live webcast for the kids at home - Humanized talks about Enso - ChicagoBeta-BARcamp Job Board - exploration, the joy of learning things and lots of liquor Some last shout-outs for help: - video peoples, help capture talks and goings on. - please bring power strips, Cat5 cables, extension cords, pillows to sit on - bring an idea for a code sprint Thats it. Looking forward to seeing you all there! -jason jason at hostedlabs.com 847.208.1000 event details: http://barcampchicago.com/ From corey.sweeney at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 21:06:02 2007 From: corey.sweeney at gmail.com (Corey Sweeney) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:06:02 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> <46705A9D.5080608@jquigley.com> Message-ID: Hey everyone. Ok this is really late, and lots of stuff to talk about. First up: The list lag. John mentioned recieving 5 backloged messages. I wrote the original message on sunday the 10th at 3:42pm. When did everyone recieve it? I think i stopped checking for responces on tuesday a little before people started responding :) [emergency at work happened] Ok, now I have some issues, like: Tech coffie is to early to get up I'm in the northwest suburbs (is anyone else in the suburbs, or is *everyone* in the city?) I also have a major issue that i'm not portable. My project is bound to my (huge) machine, and people don't want to let me format thier laptops hard drive when they loan it to me. heh. I've been trying to install to a USB keychain drive. I now have knoppix on the keychain drive, but i havn't figured out how to add programs to knoppix since the filesystem is compressed and appears to be read only. Plus what everyones said so far. Now for solutions: I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, or just log in from home if your lazy. It also means that we could have "satelite meetings" where a couple people could have a more local "code sprint" that was networked to the main one. Also, I like the idea of makeing the code sprints the focal point for the lisp get togethers (especially since I can rarely make saturdays). I'd propose that we make the code sprint/irc meetings the "get together time", and just do the LUG when we have a actual presentation? What do people think? Corey P.S. does anyone know how to deal with the compressed knoppix filesystem? On 6/13/07, michael bobak wrote: > Yeah! me too. I should be able to catch part of this Fridays. > > > On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:59 PM, John Quigley wrote: > > michael bobak wrote: > I had suggested the 'tech-coffee' in my email that didn't go through; but > would probably be more interested in this one. > > We've modeled this after TechCoffee. Most of us are night-owls so the early > morning TechCoffee schedule isn't compatible, if you get my drift. > Programming Tonight generally runs from 7p to 12a or so. > > - John Quigley > _______________________________________________ > chicago-lisp site list > chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp ps. I > didn't cc the list, as it always bounces for me. > _Michael bobak at computer.org __ > http://chicagolisp.googlepages.com/ > > -- ((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y))) From ynadji at iit.edu Thu Jun 21 21:15:18 2007 From: ynadji at iit.edu (Yacin Nadji) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:15:18 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> <46705A9D.5080608@jquigley.com> Message-ID: <467AEA66.9070509@iit.edu> It's pretty easy to alter a Knoppix filesystem, I actually did it for a research thing at my school. What you want to look for is Knoppix Remastering, (see: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Remastering_Howto). I wrote some scripts to help me easily re-master multiple times, and there are apparently people working on making the process more automated as well. If you have any questions, feel free to ask! Yacin Corey Sweeney wrote: > Hey everyone. > > Ok this is really late, and lots of stuff to talk about. > > First up: The list lag. > > John mentioned recieving 5 backloged messages. I wrote the original > message on sunday the 10th at 3:42pm. When did everyone recieve it? > I think i stopped checking for responces on tuesday a little before > people started responding :) [emergency at work happened] > > > Ok, now I have some issues, like: > Tech coffie is to early to get up > I'm in the northwest suburbs (is anyone else in the suburbs, or is > *everyone* in the city?) > > I also have a major issue that i'm not portable. My project is bound > to my (huge) machine, and people don't want to let me format thier > laptops hard drive when they loan it to me. heh. I've been trying to > install to a USB keychain drive. I now have knoppix on the keychain > drive, but i havn't figured out how to add programs to knoppix since > the filesystem is compressed and appears to be read only. > > Plus what everyones said so far. > > > Now for solutions: > > I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on > freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. > The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, > or just log in from home if your lazy. > > It also means that we could have "satelite meetings" where a couple > people could have a more local "code sprint" that was networked to the > main one. > > Also, I like the idea of makeing the code sprints the focal point for > the lisp get togethers (especially since I can rarely make saturdays). > I'd propose that we make the code sprint/irc meetings the "get > together time", and just do the LUG when we have a actual > presentation? > > What do people think? > > Corey > > P.S. does anyone know how to deal with the compressed knoppix filesystem? > > > On 6/13/07, michael bobak wrote: >> Yeah! me too. I should be able to catch part of this Fridays. >> >> >> On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:59 PM, John Quigley wrote: >> >> michael bobak wrote: >> I had suggested the 'tech-coffee' in my email that didn't go through; >> but >> would probably be more interested in this one. >> >> We've modeled this after TechCoffee. Most of us are night-owls so >> the early >> morning TechCoffee schedule isn't compatible, if you get my drift. >> Programming Tonight generally runs from 7p to 12a or so. >> >> - John Quigley >> _______________________________________________ >> chicago-lisp site list >> chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net >> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp ps. I >> didn't cc the list, as it always bounces for me. >> _Michael bobak at computer.org __ >> http://chicagolisp.googlepages.com/ >> >> > > From wojtowicz.norbert at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 22:04:32 2007 From: wojtowicz.norbert at gmail.com (Norbert Wojtowicz) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:04:32 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200706211704.32406.wojtowicz.norbert@gmail.com> Hello John and everyone else I may or may not know. > John mentioned recieving 5 backloged messages. I wrote the original > message on sunday the 10th at 3:42pm. When did everyone recieve it? I've been having mail trouble recently on my end, so I can't be very objective about this. > Ok, now I have some issues, like: > Tech coffie is to early to get up > I'm in the northwest suburbs (is anyone else in the suburbs, or is > *everyone* in the city?) Same. Well, technically I'm in the city but I can walk across the street to Elmwood Park / Franklin Park. > I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on > freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. > The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, > or just log in from home if your lazy. +1. Sometimes I just have fairly simple questions that stump me for an hour and there's also the problem of being flamed/ignored on #lisp. :-) > Also, I like the idea of makeing the code sprints the focal point for > the lisp get togethers (especially since I can rarely make saturdays). > I'd propose that we make the code sprint/irc meetings the "get > together time", and just do the LUG when we have a actual > presentation? Hopefully there can be a similar psychology effect as TechCoffee: people pushed and prodded to go finish their projects are more likely to get things done than a biweekly general meet-up (not that there is anything wrong with the LUG meetings; just doesn't seem to share the same goals). Additionally, probably a lot of what we can learn from our peers is through time spent hacking together on problems. That is to say, a lot of epiphany "ah-ha!" moments probably can't be translated to a 15 minute presentation. Cheers! - Norbert PS. Is there a meeting tomorrow night and, if so, is it at the same cafe as listed earlier? From corey.sweeney at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 22:34:00 2007 From: corey.sweeney at gmail.com (Corey Sweeney) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:34:00 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: <200706211704.32406.wojtowicz.norbert@gmail.com> References: <200706211704.32406.wojtowicz.norbert@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 6/21/07, Norbert Wojtowicz wrote: > Hello John and everyone else I may or may not know. > Hi! :) > > > I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on > > freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. > > The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, > > or just log in from home if your lazy. > > +1. Sometimes I just have fairly simple questions that stump me for an hour > and there's also the problem of being flamed/ignored on #lisp. :-) I agree. I'm hoping that by forcing it to be a local thing, that people will learn who each other are, and interactions more valuable then a average #lisp interaction. Or said more coarsely: Your more likely to be polite when they know where you live. heh (That's a good enough approximation of what i'm trying to say, without me trying to formally model it :) Actually, send your questions to the common-lisp mailing list. We need the traffic :) > > > Also, I like the idea of makeing the code sprints the focal point for > > the lisp get togethers (especially since I can rarely make saturdays). > > I'd propose that we make the code sprint/irc meetings the "get > > together time", and just do the LUG when we have a actual > > presentation? > > Hopefully there can be a similar psychology effect as TechCoffee: people > pushed and prodded to go finish their projects are more likely to get things > done than a biweekly general meet-up (not that there is anything wrong with > the LUG meetings; just doesn't seem to share the same goals). Additionally, > probably a lot of what we can learn from our peers is through time spent > hacking together on problems. That is to say, a lot of epiphany "ah-ha!" > moments probably can't be translated to a 15 minute presentation. That's a good point about the "psycology effect". Perhaps after we get started, we should start a "whiteboard" that lists what project each person is currently working on. (projects that people are *thinking about* working on would go somewhere else) By the way, is chicagolisp.org empty, or in a forign language? > > Cheers! > - Norbert > > PS. Is there a meeting tomorrow night and, if so, is it at the same cafe as > listed earlier? > _______________________________________________ > chicago-lisp site list > chicago-lisp at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp > -- ((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y))) From list at phaedrusdeinus.org Fri Jun 22 00:16:21 2007 From: list at phaedrusdeinus.org (John Melesky) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:16:21 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> <46705A9D.5080608@jquigley.com> Message-ID: <8E8B8DDE-BE7E-4861-9366-CE3DF20A6304@phaedrusdeinus.org> On Jun 21, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Corey Sweeney wrote: > Ok, now I have some issues, like: > Tech coffie is to early to get up > I'm in the northwest suburbs (is anyone else in the suburbs, or is > *everyone* in the city?) We're happy to have additional locations in play. I'd still recommend getting out of the house and hanging out with someone else who's coding -- the atmosphere of productivity is too easily dispelled if flying solo -- but that needn't be downtown if you can't make it. > I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on > freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. > The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, > or just log in from home if your lazy. TechCoffee now has an IRC channel on freenode (#techcoffee, unsurprisingly), precisely to help mediate the remote location problem. None of that's really here or there, just wanted to point out some useful TechCoffee info. -johnnnnnnnnn From jquigley at jquigley.com Fri Jun 22 01:16:07 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:16:07 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: <46705449.1070108@jquigley.com> <46705A9D.5080608@jquigley.com> Message-ID: <467B22D7.8000708@jquigley.com> Corey Sweeney wrote: > John mentioned recieving 5 backloged messages. As an update, it seems as though I've been receiving chicago-lisp emails regularly since that complaint of mine. Perhaps there was some MTA issue that has since been resolved. > I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on > freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. I'm sitting in #cl ('chicago lisp') @ irc.oftc.net, as per our homepage: http://www.chicagolisp.org/ I personally like oftc better, mostly for technical reasons such as their provision of SSL IRC. I also think the board that operates the network is better run. If there's interest in moving to freenode, that's totally cool by me, though. > The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, > or just log in from home if your lazy. Sounds like a good idea, though I do very strongly recommend we try to meet physically when possible. It provides a much greater sense of community. > Also, I like the idea of makeing the code sprints the focal point for > the lisp get togethers (especially since I can rarely make saturdays). > I'd propose that we make the code sprint/irc meetings the "get > together time", and just do the LUG when we have a actual > presentation? I agree. We're a programming group, not a talk show, so it stands to reason that our primary activity should be programming. - John Quigley From jquigley at jquigley.com Fri Jun 22 01:23:09 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:23:09 -0500 Subject: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages In-Reply-To: References: <200706211704.32406.wojtowicz.norbert@gmail.com> Message-ID: <467B247D.8000904@jquigley.com> Corey Sweeney wrote: > By the way, is chicagolisp.org empty, or in a forign language? It's without content, though the Resources, Contact and About sub-sections contain valid info. I'm looking to place articles on the homepage that have been written by us. The articles should be functional language- or programming-oriented, as you might imagine. I'll be writing one, and some language folks with whom I do research have expressed a willingness to write for us. I'm hoping to create interest in our group by publishing interesting content on our site. The language is Latin, and is "standard placeholder text used to demonstrate the graphic elements of a document or visual presentation, such as font, typography, and layout." See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_Ipsum - John Quigley