From peter.hildebrandt at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 12:59:00 2008 From: peter.hildebrandt at gmail.com (Peter Hildebrandt) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:00 +0200 Subject: [cells-devel] Re: [cells-gtk-devel] installation notes, type error in test-gtk In-Reply-To: <4889F375.5080500@optonline.net> References: <873e58110807231821t6268cd9k67ecb764f0b1d3ff@mail.gmail.com> <4888237E.8090308@optonline.net> <873e58110807241948p7987fa79o59103a9487c16aa2@mail.gmail.com> <48897488.5040306@optonline.net> <873e58110807250417h2944ef2ax683baceca25bb2a0@mail.gmail.com> <4889F375.5080500@optonline.net> Message-ID: <7758b2680808010559ncae0ddgb7bdec5570c561cf@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Kenny Tilton wrote: > Laziz Foo wrote: >>> >>> Thanks! So I have lost track, is this Cells-Gtk3 (with Cells 3 Inside) or >>> Oldskool Cells-Gtk? >> >> >> This is cells-gtk3. Oldschool works out of the box, but I wanted the >> cairo stuff. > > And you got help from someone other than Peter H so it sounds as if CG3 has > taken hold. Cool. > > So it is a battle to death between Cello and Cells-Gtk3 for GUI supremacy? > Awesome. I'm afraid I won't be able to push cells-gtk as much in the near future. Now that I have a job and a new apartment, Real Life keeps me quite busy. So 1:0 for cello ... >> It also occurs to me that >> if the 'yobbos' really wanted to popularize lisp, they'd find some way >> to use cells-*tk to create a Visual Studio-like thingy that would >> enable any CTO's nephew to say, "Oh lisp-- yeah, I do that." > > It would not help, I think. Programming is receding into the background (or > India or Russia or China) of culture. Once was a time lotsa people wired up > electronics. The career is still there for the odd weirdo, but -- well, it's > like shade-tree auto mechanics: gone along with the simple technology. I'd rather say it is like manufacturing: Programming has become a commodity rather than an art, so the big players produce where it is cheapest. So yes, the point-and-click low-barriers code writing will be gone soon, along with making sneakers, plastic toys, and printed circuit boards. But -- every now and then a handful of smart people realizes that there is more to programming than typing code, and then they create something great. Those people don't care about shiny IDEs, tho. Peter From uqneht at common-lisp.net Sun Aug 3 15:55:56 2008 From: uqneht at common-lisp.net (Fannie) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:55:56 +0100 Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] Your casino account Message-ID: <4895C6FC.8080904@common-lisp.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From t at common-lisp.net Sun Aug 24 11:47:10 2008 From: t at common-lisp.net (Johnnie) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:47:10 +0100 Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] Try now Message-ID: <48B13C2E.50203@common-lisp.net> Win, win with us - our Vegas casino for you. Welcome! http://mycasplay.net/