From pdenno at common-lisp.net  Fri Mar 17 04:53:43 2006
From: pdenno at common-lisp.net (pdenno)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:53:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [cells-gtk-cvs] CVS public_html
Message-ID: <20060317045343.240415300E@common-lisp.net>

Update of /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html
In directory clnet:/tmp/cvs-serv12859

Modified Files:
	faq.html screenshots.html 
Log Message:
updates announcing  MIV

--- /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/faq.html	2006/02/11 04:39:16	1.13
+++ /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/faq.html	2006/03/17 04:53:43	1.14
@@ -117,12 +117,12 @@
 <strong id="q3">Q: What is required to deliver executables?</strong><p/>
 There is only one data point that I know of with respect to this; I created an Win32 .exe
 using Lispworks. The code is available for anyone who might what to take a look (email me, it's
-not on a server anywhere). The .exe is available too.<p/>
+not on a server anywhere). The <a href="http://www.mel.nist.gov/msid/MIV.html">.exe</a> is available too.<p/>
 Key aspects of the design:
   <ul>
     <li>I included with the application the Cells-GTK libraries, so that the user didn't have
         to mess around with finding and installing those.
-    <li>I used the <a href='http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page'>NSIS</a> open source installer 
+    <li>I used the <a href="http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page">NSIS</a> open source installer 
         creation tool, which works nicely and, importantly, allowed me to add to the PATH variable. 
         My software looks for GTK on the path to determine where it was installed. It 
         then set *gtk-lib-path*.
@@ -136,7 +136,7 @@
 <strong id="q6">Q: What GTK Widgets are implemented in cells-gtk?</strong><p/>
 <strong>A:</strong> [hmm, Better to ask what isn't. Most of the useful widgets are implemented, but
     among those, many non-essential methods are not.] A quick look at the 
-<a href="http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/ch02.html">widget gallery</a>. These
+<a href="http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/ch02.html">widget gallery</a>.... These
 are not implemented:
 <ul>
   <li>GtkColorButton</li>
@@ -148,8 +148,8 @@
   <li>GtkColorSelectionDialog</li>
 </ul>
 <p/>There are quite a few other widgets not listed in the Gallery that aren't implmented.
-But BTW, it isn't difficult to implement most of these. If you need one, implemented
-it and drop us a note!
+But BTW, it isn't difficult to implement most of these. If you need one, implement
+it and drop us a note! (If you need help, just ask.)
 
 <p/>
 <strong id="q7">Q: Do I have to use cells?</strong><p/>
--- /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/screenshots.html	2005/03/04 16:48:12	1.2
+++ /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/screenshots.html	2006/03/17 04:53:43	1.3
@@ -65,6 +65,10 @@
  style="width: 558px; height: 582px;"/><br/> 
 <p/>
 
+<p/>
+If you'd like to test drive a Win32 .exe of a completed cells-gtk application,
+there is one <a href="http://www.mel.nist.gov/msid/MIV.html">here</a>.
+<p/>
 If you have screenshots of your work you'd like share, send them to the 
 <a href="http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-gtk-devel">project
 mail list</a>.



From pdenno at common-lisp.net  Fri Mar 17 05:18:23 2006
From: pdenno at common-lisp.net (pdenno)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:18:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [cells-gtk-cvs] CVS public_html
Message-ID: <20060317051823.8444D5D08E@common-lisp.net>

Update of /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html
In directory clnet:/tmp/cvs-serv19515

Modified Files:
	faq.html index.html screenshots.html 
Log Message:
more clean up

--- /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/faq.html	2006/03/17 04:53:43	1.14
+++ /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/faq.html	2006/03/17 05:18:23	1.15
@@ -104,24 +104,25 @@
    <p/>
    See also:
     <ul>      
-       <li><a href='http://bc.tech.coop/blog/030911.html'>
-            Bill Clementson's Blog</a></li>
-       <li><a href="http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/">
-            http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/</a></li>
-       <li><a href="http://www.tilton-technology.com/cells_top.html">
-             http://www.tilton-technology.com/cells_top.html</a></li>
+       <li><a href='http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/'>Cells on common-lisp.net</a></li>
+       <li><a href='http://www.tilton-technology.com/cells_top.html'>Cells at tilton-technology.com</a></li>
+       <li><a href='http://bc.tech.coop/blog/030911.html'>Bill Clementson's Blog, Cells entry</a></li>
     </ul>
 
 <p/>
 
 <strong id="q3">Q: What is required to deliver executables?</strong><p/>
 There is only one data point that I know of with respect to this; I created an Win32 .exe
-using Lispworks. The code is available for anyone who might what to take a look (email me, it's
+using Lispworks. The code is available to anyone who might what to take a look (email me, it's
 not on a server anywhere). The <a href="http://www.mel.nist.gov/msid/MIV.html">.exe</a> is available too.<p/>
 Key aspects of the design:
   <ul>
-    <li>I included with the application the Cells-GTK libraries, so that the user didn't have
-        to mess around with finding and installing those.
+    <li>I included with the GTK libraries with my application, so that the user didn't have
+        to mess around with finding and installing them. Whether that was really the best approach is
+        debatable. If I instead asked the user to get the GTK libraries and install them him/herself, they 
+        would be placed where libraries are usually found, and screwing around with *gtk-lib-path* might
+        not have been necessary. Even better, if I really knew what I was doing with NSIS, I might have
+        been able to install the libraries and my application on separate paths. 
     <li>I used the <a href="http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page">NSIS</a> open source installer 
         creation tool, which works nicely and, importantly, allowed me to add to the PATH variable. 
         My software looks for GTK on the path to determine where it was installed. It 
@@ -155,12 +156,12 @@
 <strong id="q7">Q: Do I have to use cells?</strong><p/>
 <strong>A:</strong> Probably not. But the demo uses them, so it might still be (despite the lack of 
 documentation of the cells API) the path of least resistance. (This answer is
-mostly to shame kenny tilton into writing some documentation ;^). There is at least one
-application (mine) that uses them productively. See also:
+mostly to shame kenny tilton into writing some documentation ;^). There is at least a few
+applications (mine) that uses them productively. See also:
         <ul>
-          <li>http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/</li>
-          <li>http://www.tilton-technology.com/cells_top.html</li>
-          <li>http://home.comcast.net/~bc19191/2003_09_07_bill-clementson_archive.html</li>
+          <li><a href='http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/'>Cells on common-lisp.net</a></li>
+          <li><a href='http://www.tilton-technology.com/cells_top.html'>Cells at tilton-technology.com</a></li>
+          <li><a href='http://bc.tech.coop/blog/030911.html'>Bill Clementson's Blog, Cells entry</a></li>
        </ul>
 <p/>
 <strong id="q8">Q: What is libcellsgtk.so about?</strong><p/>
@@ -372,10 +373,11 @@
 
 <hr/>
 <address><a href="mailto:peter.denno at nist.gov">Peter Denno</a></address>
-<!-- Created: Thu Mar  3 18:45:35 EST 2005 -->
-<!-- hhmts start -->
-Last modified: 2006-02-10
-<!-- hhmts end -->
+Last modified: 2006-03-17
+<a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
+  src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-xhtml10"
+  alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!" height="31" width="88"/></a>
+
 </div>
 </body>
 </html>
--- /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/index.html	2006/02/16 22:41:45	1.25
+++ /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/index.html	2006/03/17 05:18:23	1.26
@@ -67,8 +67,8 @@
 initial release, just some of which can be seen in the 
 <a href='screenshots.html'>screenshots</a> graciously provide by Klaus Wiedner.
 <p/>
-<strong>cell-gtk</strong> has been tested under Allegro (Windows), Lispworks (Linux, PC), 
-CLISP (Linux, PC), and CMUCL(Linux). 
+<strong>cell-gtk</strong> has been tested under Allegro(Windows), Lispworks(Linux, PC), 
+CLISP(Linux, PC), SBCL(Linux), and CMUCL(Linux). 
 <p/>
   <!-- ###### News ###### -->
 <h1 id='news'>News</h1>
--- /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/screenshots.html	2006/03/17 04:53:43	1.3
+++ /project/cells-gtk/cvsroot/public_html/screenshots.html	2006/03/17 05:18:23	1.4
@@ -74,11 +74,13 @@
 mail list</a>.
 
 <hr/>
+
 <address><a href="mailto:peter.denno at nist.gov">Peter Denno</a></address>
 <!-- Created: Thu Mar  3 18:45:35 EST 2005 -->
 <!-- hhmts start -->
-Last modified: Fri Mar  4 10:28:06 EST 2005
+Last modified: 2006-03-17
 <!-- hhmts end -->
+
 <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
   src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-xhtml10"
   alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!" height="31" width="88"/></a>