From mirko.vukovic at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 17:45:57 2010 From: mirko.vukovic at gmail.com (Mirko Vukovic) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:45:57 -0400 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? Message-ID: Hello group, Before diving into cells, I want to make sure I have the latest stable release.? I will run cells on sbcl & clisp to control the flow of some numerical calculations (I am really not interested in GTK right now). I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren).? I gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an issue. Am I correct in using cliki's cells2.0? Thank you, Mirko From ramarren at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 18:19:45 2010 From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:19:45 +0100 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Mirko Vukovic wrote: > I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. As far as I can tell cells 2.0 is not linked from cliki, although it is from the homepage. In any case, it is really old. The latest original version is in CVS and is marked as 3.0. I believe it has improved data integrity for certain cases (well, according to http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/c0afdb359ffed6a7 in this case "has improved" means "adds" but supposedly it usually works anyway). > On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren).? I > gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an > issue. My branch of Cells themselves is just a number of cosmetic fixes for Cells 3.0 (well, as it is in CVS it doesn't work on anything except Lispworks, but those are cosmetic-level changes anyway). The commit list is here: http://github.com/Ramarren/cells/commits/master , mostly it make SBCL emit less warnings and improves support for other implementations. Regards, Jakub Higersberger From kentilton at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 18:01:45 2010 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Kenneth Tilton) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:01:45 -0400 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BACF689.4060108@gmail.com> Mirko Vukovic wrote: > Hello group, > > Before diving into cells, I want to make sure I have the latest stable > release. I will run cells on sbcl & clisp to control the flow of some > numerical calculations (I am really not interested in GTK right now). > > I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. > > On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren). I > gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an > issue. > > Am I correct in using cliki's cells2.0? No, that is ancient and if anyone has access to that wiki please zap that and replace it with a link to the common-lisp.net tarball (link at bottom of page): http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?root=cells cheers, ken ps. The Cells component inside Ramarren's branch...hmmm, that might not even be Cells4, oretty sure cells-gtk is still cells3. pps. Starting to think about moving Cells, celtk, and Cello to github or the other gitter I see out there. Watch this space. From frgo at me.com Fri Mar 26 17:48:02 2010 From: frgo at me.com (Frank Goenninger) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:48:02 +0100 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mirko, Am 26.03.2010 um 18:45 schrieb Mirko Vukovic: > Hello group, > > Before diving into cells, I want to make sure I have the latest stable > release. I will run cells on sbcl & clisp to control the flow of some > numerical calculations (I am really not interested in GTK right now). > > I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. > > On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren). I > gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an > issue. > > Am I correct in using cliki's cells2.0? > > Thank you, > > Mirko I'm using http://github.com/Ramarren/cells Cheers Frank From ramarren at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 19:03:05 2010 From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:03:05 +0100 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: <4BAD0184.6020005@gmail.com> References: <4BAD0184.6020005@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Kenneth Tilton wrote: > Not sure what 4 added, then. maybe the flattening of recursion into a fifo > queue of changes? I didn't even know that there was Cells4. Is it published anywhere? Or is it in common-lisp.net CVS and the version change is just not mentioned anywhere? I can definitely see that the branch I based on uses a fifo queue for something. The last commit is from October 2008. Jakub Higersberger From kentilton at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 19:11:38 2010 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Kenneth Tilton) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:11:38 -0400 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: <4BAD0184.6020005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BAD06EA.6010401@gmail.com> Ramarren wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Kenneth Tilton wrote: >> Not sure what 4 added, then. maybe the flattening of recursion into a fifo >> queue of changes? > > I didn't even know that there was Cells4. Hmm, there may not be. Anyway, c-l.net is current. kt Is it published anywhere? Or > is it in common-lisp.net CVS and the version change is just not > mentioned anywhere? I can definitely see that the branch I based on > uses a fifo queue for something. The last commit is from October 2008. > > Jakub Higersberger > From kentilton at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 18:48:36 2010 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Kenneth Tilton) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:48:36 -0400 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAD0184.6020005@gmail.com> Ramarren wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Mirko Vukovic wrote: >> I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. > > As far as I can tell cells 2.0 is not linked from cliki, although it > is from the homepage. In any case, it is really old. The latest > original version is in CVS and is marked as 3.0. I believe it has > improved data integrity for certain cases (well, according to > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/c0afdb359ffed6a7 in > this case "has improved" means "adds" but supposedly it usually works > anyway). Ah, 3 added integrity? Well, when I added it I did it all in one go, so it should be pretty solid on those edge cases that broke 2. Not sure what 4 added, then. maybe the flattening of recursion into a fifo queue of changes? Yes, 2 worked for an incredibly long time, but it does have a hole closed by 3 so who needs the uncertainty? kt > >> On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren). I >> gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an >> issue. > > My branch of Cells themselves is just a number of cosmetic fixes for > Cells 3.0 (well, as it is in CVS it doesn't work on anything except > Lispworks, but those are cosmetic-level changes anyway). The commit > list is here: http://github.com/Ramarren/cells/commits/master , mostly > it make SBCL emit less warnings and improves support for other > implementations. > > Regards, > Jakub Higersberger > > _______________________________________________ > cells-devel site list > cells-devel at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-devel > From mirko.vukovic at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 02:35:24 2010 From: mirko.vukovic at gmail.com (Mirko Vukovic) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:35:24 -0400 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to all that replied. I downloaded and installed the version from http://github.com/Ramarren/cells on clisp 2.-47 on cygwin. The one on common-lisp.net depended on Allegro's excl package - so it was a no-go for me. Mirko On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Mirko Vukovic wrote: > Hello group, > > Before diving into cells, I want to make sure I have the latest stable > release.? I will run cells on sbcl & clisp to control the flow of some > numerical calculations (I am really not interested in GTK right now). > > I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. > > On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren).? I > gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an > issue. > > Am I correct in using cliki's cells2.0? > > Thank you, > > Mirko > From kentilton at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 08:42:03 2010 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Kenneth Tilton) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:42:03 -0400 Subject: [cells-devel] which is the correct cells distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB067DB.1000803@gmail.com> Mirko Vukovic wrote: > Thanks to all that replied. > > I downloaded and installed the version from > http://github.com/Ramarren/cells on clisp 2.-47 on cygwin. > > The one on common-lisp.net depended on Allegro's excl package - so it > was a no-go for me. That would have been something you could just remove, tho I understand not wanting to guess at that. kt > > Mirko > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Mirko Vukovic wrote: >> Hello group, >> >> Before diving into cells, I want to make sure I have the latest stable >> release. I will run cells on sbcl & clisp to control the flow of some >> numerical calculations (I am really not interested in GTK right now). >> >> I have downloaded cells2.0 from cliki. >> >> On the mailing list, I see another branch mentioned (Ramarren). I >> gather that as long as I don't care about GTK, that should not be an >> issue. >> >> Am I correct in using cliki's cells2.0? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mirko >> > > _______________________________________________ > cells-devel site list > cells-devel at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-devel >