From denpashogai at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 13:39:16 2008
From: denpashogai at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ois=C3=ADn_Mac_Fheara=C3=AD?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:39:16 +0100
Subject: [cello-devel] State of Cello?
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The lack of response to David's question since June is a bit
disappointing, since Cello looks like a really promising project, and
just what a CL newbie like myself needs.

I'd like to hear from anyone currently using/working on Cello, that
also perhaps knows where the source code is now? Has the CVS site
moved or is it just down?

Ois?n

From kennytilton at optonline.net  Sun Oct 12 15:28:05 2008
From: kennytilton at optonline.net (Kenny Tilton)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:28:05 -0400
Subject: [cello-devel] State of Cello?
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Ois?n Mac Fheara? wrote:
> The lack of response to David's question since June is a bit
> disappointing, since Cello looks like a really promising project, and
> just what a CL newbie like myself needs.
> 
> I'd like to hear from anyone currently using/working on Cello, that
> also perhaps knows where the source code is now? Has the CVS site
> moved or is it just down?

Hi, Oisin.

Cello is alive and well on my desktop and in this Windows (and hopefully 
soon OS X) application: http://www.theoryyalgebra.com/

I do not see much mail on cello-devel, more on cells-devel.

Cello is a tough project for noobs, mostly because of assembling all the 
libraries and getting them built on non-windows platforms. It can take days.

I just checked common-lisp.net and the CVS repositories seem to be 
inaccessible at the moment, but it sould be here:

    common-lisp.net:/project/cello/cvsroot

I was able to do a Cells commit last night so hopefully it is just 
temporary.

Me, I am getting more interested in Web2.0 these days, but I sure did 
have fun with OpenGL and OpenAL. OpenGL especially was a blast.

If you just need a GUI, Cells-Gtk or Celtk might be easier installs.

hth, kenny




From denpashogai at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 18:31:32 2008
From: denpashogai at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ois=C3=ADn_Mac_Fheara=C3=AD?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:31:32 +0100
Subject: [cello-devel] State of Cello?
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2008/10/12 Kenny Tilton <kennytilton at optonline.net>:
> Me, I am getting more interested in Web2.0 these days, but I sure did
> have fun with OpenGL and OpenAL. OpenGL especially was a blast.
>
> If you just need a GUI, Cells-Gtk or Celtk might be easier installs.

Hi Kenny,

Thanks for your quick reply. I may check these out, as well as
cl-opengl which sounds nice. Installing things seems a little
difficult for noobs like myself in CL; asdf-install, for one thing,
dies in SBCL on my Mac.
Plenty of sweat and tears ahead, I foresee...

thanks,
Ois?n