From fare at tunes.org Wed Mar 19 03:15:49 2008 From: fare at tunes.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:15:49 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Re: Sponsor In-Reply-To: <315719D16A1D464E900D1BA6D055F0E236B681@W2K3EXC.2i.local> References: <315719D16A1D464E900D1BA6D055F0E236B681@W2K3EXC.2i.local> Message-ID: <653bea160803182015n5f74e7bemc71d1f7b3b4fce23@mail.gmail.com> Well, if you offer a room to discuss, food or drinks, a plane ticket for a speaker, money for a coding fund (e.g. Google Summer of Code), work hours to devote to organizational work, etc., you will be sponsor and eligible to have your logo displayed, a thank you notice before the event, your name on our (future) website, the opportunity to give out fliers, etc. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Passive hope is wishful thinking, a poison of the mind. Active hope is creative passion, the mover of the universe. You are definitely welcome to our March 31st meeting. On 18/03/2008, Glenn House wrote: > What is involved in being a sponsor for this event (or food)? We are small > company in Walpole and we develop in Lisp for our internal applications as > well as for the DoD. How we might be of service. I will try to attend the > 31st meeting. > > > > Feel free to contact me. > > > > Best, > > > > Glenn D. House Sr., > > President > > 2Is Inc. (1ZKD0) > > 75 West St. > > Walpole, MA 02081-1819 > > glenn_house at 2is-inc.com > > http://www.2is-inc.com > > > > > > (508) 850-7520 x202 (voice) > > (508) 850-7521 (fax) From dan.stanger at ieee.org Wed Mar 19 12:08:24 2008 From: dan.stanger at ieee.org (Dan Stanger) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:08:24 -0500 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Re: Sponsor In-Reply-To: <653bea160803182015n5f74e7bemc71d1f7b3b4fce23@mail.gmail.com> References: <315719D16A1D464E900D1BA6D055F0E236B681@W2K3EXC.2i.local> <653bea160803182015n5f74e7bemc71d1f7b3b4fce23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E10238.3090807@ieee.org> Hello Glenn, Would you be interested in speaking for a few minutes at one of our meetings, to discuss the work your company is doing with Lisp? Regards, Dan Stanger Far? wrote: > Well, if you offer a room to discuss, food or drinks, a plane ticket > for a speaker, money for a coding fund (e.g. Google Summer of Code), > work hours to devote to organizational work, etc., you will be sponsor > and eligible to have your logo displayed, a thank you notice before > the event, your name on our (future) website, the opportunity to give > out fliers, etc. > > [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] > Passive hope is wishful thinking, a poison of the mind. > Active hope is creative passion, the mover of the universe. > > > You are definitely welcome to our March 31st meeting. > > On 18/03/2008, Glenn House wrote: > >> What is involved in being a sponsor for this event (or food)? We are small >> company in Walpole and we develop in Lisp for our internal applications as >> well as for the DoD. How we might be of service. I will try to attend the >> 31st meeting. >> >> >> >> Feel free to contact me. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Glenn D. House Sr., >> >> President >> >> 2Is Inc. (1ZKD0) >> >> 75 West St. >> >> Walpole, MA 02081-1819 >> >> glenn_house at 2is-inc.com >> >> http://www.2is-inc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> (508) 850-7520 x202 (voice) >> >> (508) 850-7521 (fax) >> > _______________________________________________ > boston-lisp-organizers mailing list > boston-lisp-organizers at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/boston-lisp-organizers > > From fahree at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 02:10:25 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:10:25 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting Message-ID: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> Dear Guy, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be about programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Lacking a dedicated website for the moment, the URL for our event is: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston,lisp,meetings We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] The highest goal of computer science is to automate that which can be automated. -- Derek L. VerLee From fahree at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 02:12:18 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:12:18 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803191912n6b6c6bcfqa8ec73e3e895a4a5@mail.gmail.com> Dear Norman, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be about programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Lacking a dedicated website for the moment, the URL for our event is: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston,lisp,meetings We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] The highest goal of computer science is to automate that which can be automated. -- Derek L. VerLee From fahree at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 02:13:18 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:13:18 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803191913y628d2aa1la7aea3ab3395eb46@mail.gmail.com> Dear Dan, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be about programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Lacking a dedicated website for the moment, the URL for our event is: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston,lisp,meetings We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] The highest goal of computer science is to automate that which can be automated. -- Derek L. VerLee From fahree at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 02:18:44 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:18:44 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803191918i3334eff5h5bf0e18fc1c30f8b@mail.gmail.com> Dear Mitch, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be about programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Lacking a dedicated website for the moment, the URL for our event is: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston,lisp,meetings We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. We hope to also be able to offer a free dinner to speakers and attendees. I would also appreciate your raising attention about such an event amongst your students, colleagues and seminar attendees. While I'm at it, I suppose you're aware of the next International Lisp Conference ILC'09 to happen next year at MIT. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] /let theory guide your observations/, but till your reputation is well established, be sparing in publishing theory. It makes persons doubt your observations. -- Charles Darwin to a young botanist From fahree at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 07:19:32 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:19:32 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] More organization work needed Message-ID: <653bea160803210019g5395db13v7d8b969a706d3977@mail.gmail.com> Listmasters: thanks for opening this list. Have you invited all the people who expressed the will to help organizing? Others (if any): we need a real website. My blog is not the real thing. http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/lisp Our website(s) needs have: * a simple website - list previous and future events; has links to slides, audio, video, urls; thanks sponsors; etc. * a blog - publish the latest news (?) * a private wiki, to help organize things (track who are the potential speakers, what tasks need be completed, etc.) - at worst use zoho * a public wiki? Maybe, maybe not - we could reuse cliki or whatever in the meantime. * a way to track down who's registered - so we get headcounts and can order appropriate food. Any taker for any of these? [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Merely having an open mind is nothing; the object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid. -- G.K. Chesterton From davidjneu at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 15:16:01 2008 From: davidjneu at gmail.com (David J. Neu) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:16:01 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Speaker Recommendation Message-ID: <20080321151601.GA29651@bach.davidneu.local> All, I'd like to recommend Rich Hickey the author of Clojure, http://clojure.sourceforge.net/, as a speaker at an upcoming Boston Lisp Meeting. I've been very impressed with the decisions that Rich has made in designing this language, and think that others in the community would enjoy learning more about it. Cheers, David From fahree at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 18:47:51 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:47:51 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803221147w7c9c1e14t7bcdbe6d144f047f@mail.gmail.com> Forgot to add a Cc: this time... [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. -- Robert A. Heinlein ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Far? Date: 22 Mar 2008 14:45 Subject: Boston Lisp Meeting To: Rich Hickey Dear Rich, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It can be a general Clojure presentation, or anything else you have in mind that will interest Lisp programmers and people programming programming languages. See the call for seakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Lacking a dedicated website for the moment, the URL for our event is: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video-taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. We do not as this time have a budget to pay for your travel expenses, but we're looking for sponsors, so it's a possibility. However, we are offering you dinner, for sure. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you. -- Don Marquis From fahree at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 18:52:28 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:52:28 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803221152s3234d97ale7ee895b4ba982c9@mail.gmail.com> Dear Mark, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing, if you ever come near Boston. See the call for seakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html We do not as this time have a budget to pay for your travel expenses, but we're looking for sponsors, so it's a possibility. However, we are offering you dinner, for sure. We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video-taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Theists think all gods but theirs are false. Atheists simply don't make an exception for the last one. From fahree at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 20:31:01 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:31:01 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221318y2e4bb780gb499fae65204766b@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803221318y2e4bb780gb499fae65204766b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803221331h332840f3q62884b7c89016ec9@mail.gmail.com> Dear Zach, I'd be pleased to have you as a speaker for one of our monthly meetings, on the topic of your choice. We decided our regular meeting date would be the LAST monday every month, but we're flexible. I'm trying to establish a schedule of our many potential speakers. Could you speak in April? in May? in June? in July? August? Could your speech fit in 20'? in 45' What title should I announce? What short blurb about you shall I include? What URLs? See for this month's announce: http://fare.livejournal.com/120778.html And our call for speakers is updated at: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] From fahree at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 20:37:00 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:37:00 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221331h332840f3q62884b7c89016ec9@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803221318y2e4bb780gb499fae65204766b@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803221331h332840f3q62884b7c89016ec9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803221337x166ba4b9l687e391a547392d9@mail.gmail.com> Dear Geoff, our first meeting was a success so far with about 40 attendees, but now I'm trying to transform that success into something stable, by establishing a schedule for speakers. I would be honored to have you speak at one of our meetings, on the topic of your choice. We decided our regular meeting date would be the LAST monday every month at 6pm, but we're flexible. Could you speak in April? in May? in June? in July? August? Later? Could your speech fit in 20'? in 45' What title should I announce? What short blurb about you shall I include? What URLs? See for this month's announce: http://fare.livejournal.com/120778.html And our call for speakers is updated at: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Also, if you would accept to join our organizational team and help find other speakers, that would be great! [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] That man who dares to waste one hour of time, has not discovered the value of life. -- Charles Darwin From fahree at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 20:57:29 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:57:29 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Lisp Meeting Status so far Message-ID: <653bea160803221357j3307fc6cma707ed6898295da7@mail.gmail.com> ***SPEAKERS*** ACTUALLY SCHEDULED: * Alexey Radul - will speak 2008-03 [Enhancing Scheme] * Rahul Jain - will speak 2008-03 [DefDoc] REPLIED POSITIVELY: * Leonard E Frank - invited 2008-02 - maybe for May? [Chicken's Cheney on the MTA] * Hans H?bner - invited 2008-02 - maybe in April, if we make it the 21 instead of the 28, or another month. [BKNR] * David O'Toole - invited 2008-02 - maybe in May? [RLX rogue-like game engine] * Gary King - maybe in May? April? [?] * Greg Cooper - may in April? May? [FrTime?] * Zach Beane - invited 2008-03 [?] TO RECONTACT LATER: * Alistair Bridgewater - invited 2008-02, to recontact in 2008-11 * "Paul Graham" - invited 2008-02, to recontact in 2008-07 * Jonathan Bachrach - invited 2008-02, maybe for june? * Vyacheslav Akhmechet - invited 2008-02, to recontact later in 2008 REPLIED POSITIVELY WITHOUT A CONCLUSIVE DATE: * Dan Weinreb - invited 2008-02 * Eli Barzilay - invited 2008-02 * Kent Pitman - invited 2008-02 * Howard Cannon - invited 2008-02 * Alan Bawden - invited 2008-02 * Andrew Shalit - invited 2008-02 * Gerald Jay Sussman - invited 2008-03 POLITELY DECLINED WITHOUT A CONCLUSIVE NO * Matthias Felleisen - invited 2008-02 DECLINED POSITIVELY: * Jeremy Brown - invited 2008-02 * Bernie Greenberg - invited 2008-02 DID NOT REPLY (YET): * Guy Steele - invited 2008-03 * Norman Ramsey - invited 2008-03 * Mitchell Wand - invited 2008-03 * Dan Corkill - invited 2008-03 * Mark Feeley - invited 2008-03 * Rich Hickey - invited 2008-03 * Howard E. Shrobe - invited 2008-03 * Olin Shivers - invited 2008-02 * Ivan Krstic - invited 2008-03 * Allan Wechsler - invited 2008-02 * Gail Zacharias - invited 2008-02 * Henry Lieberman - invited 2008-02 * Jeannine Mosely - invited 2008-02 * Chris Hanson - invited 2008-02 * Richard Cobbe - invited 2008-03 * Geoffrey S. Knauth - invited 2008-03 TO CONTACT: * Add your favorite speaker... *** SPONSORS *** BEING DISCUSSED * ITA Software - Cara Kretz - concrete negociations so far look promiseful; we might get a $1000 per meeting budget, plus room and equipment. Nothing confirmed yet. Answer hopefully by end of March. * 2IS - Glenn House - will meet in March. * Clozure - not approached yet. Anyone knows who there to contact? * Any other idea? *** INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE *** DONE: * a public mailing-list with archives * a private mailing-list with archives TO ENHANCE: * a blog for announcements - so far my blog as a stop gap. * a tool for registration of attendees, to size the food order - so far my mailbox TODO: * a static site to publish background, status, links - nothing? * pictures of previous meetings - a flickr account? * videos of previous speeches - a youtube account? * a private wiki for data such as this - zoho account? * invite more of the declared organizers? From fahree at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 22:13:55 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:13:55 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803221513i5541b614x9cfa0d80d5dd292c@mail.gmail.com> Dear Tim, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It could be anything you have in mind that will interest Lisp programmers and people programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Lacking a dedicated website for the moment, the URL for our event is: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions, although we also have a shorter 20' format if you prefer, or exceptionally a longer format. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video-taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. Also, if you can spread around the word about the meeting, and/or help me find other speakers, I'll be glad. Thanks a lot, [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Maybe Jesus was right when he said that the meek shall inherit the earth -- but they inherit very small plots, about six feet by three. -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" From fahree at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 01:44:15 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:44:15 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221550r2887ac91hcbfce6f138297a28@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803191910n7a879r1b396f9873464ace@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803221145w1da4e00bl9d15b25f9086b104@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803221513i5541b614x9cfa0d80d5dd292c@mail.gmail.com> <31B99B4F-9F11-4DD3-BFB9-B93D3994A064@brandeis.edu> <653bea160803221550r2887ac91hcbfce6f138297a28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803221844x5ea1ea5md384b8ec0694ab87@mail.gmail.com> Dear Hal, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be about programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money. -- Alexis de Tocqueville From hal at mit.edu Sun Mar 23 03:36:16 2008 From: hal at mit.edu (Hal Abelson) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:36:16 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803221844x5ea1ea5md384b8ec0694ab87@mail.gmail.com> (fahree@gmail.com) Message-ID: I don't have much to say about languages. But you ought to aks Gerry Sussman (if you haven't already). He's working on some really exciting stuff. = Hal -------------------------------------------------- In reply to the message: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:44:15 -0400 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=" Dear Hal, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be about programming programming languages in general. See the call for speakers below: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by questions. The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- taped and published online, together with any accompanying material (or URLs) you'd wish to share. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money. -- Alexis de Tocqueville From fahree at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 04:19:57 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:19:57 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Re: Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <653bea160803221844x5ea1ea5md384b8ec0694ab87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803222119w5c381bc2t403b41e41864b528@mail.gmail.com> Dear Prof. Abelson, because the audience is made of Lisp programmers doesn't mean every talk has to be about programming languages as such. You could talk about Teaching or Amorphous Computing - both of which have implications about language design that the audience can figure out by themselves once communicated the basic insights. I indeed already contacted Gerry Sussman indeed, Jonathan Bachrach and Jonathan Rees (and many other potential speakers). Thanks a lot for your prompt reply! [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] On 22/03/2008, Hal Abelson wrote: > > I don't have much to say about languages. But you ought to aks Gerry > Sussman (if you haven't already). He's working on some really > exciting stuff. > > = Hal > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > In reply to the message: > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:44:15 -0400 > > From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=" > > > Dear Hal, > > I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be > honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. It > doesn't have to be about Lisp stricto sensu, but it probably has to be > about programming programming languages in general. See the call for > speakers below: > http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html > > We'll be usually meeting on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but > we're flexible on that and any date or time that suits you should be > fine. I'd be delighted if you could give a 45' speech followed by > questions. > > The meeting would probably be held either at ITA Software or at MIT > (depending on various factors), and would be audio- and/or video- > taped and published online, together with any accompanying material > (or URLs) you'd wish to share. > > [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] > The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can > bribe the people with their own money. -- Alexis de Tocqueville From fahree at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 05:33:46 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:33:46 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Fwd: Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <653bea160803221829x26a650e7s2e5039dbc5d0d6e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803232233n4f365dben4dbcc20b16344dcb@mail.gmail.com> I invited RMS for a talk, and he politely declines for what I suspect is a correct reason, having trying to discuss technique with him in the past. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] I have more, not less, problems with free software than with proprietary software! Because the few problems I have with proprietary software are all showstoppers; with free software, they get solved, until the next one shows up. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Stallman Date: 23 Mar 2008 20:53 Subject: Re: Boston Lisp Meeting To: Far? I would be honored if you would agree to speak there about a technical topic of your choice relevant to lisp hacking or programming language implementation, if you have time for that between free software conferences. I would be glad to participate, but I am not sure I can speak about a technical topic of current interest. It has been years since I kept up with technical developments. From fahree at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 05:51:12 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:51:12 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Re: query re: the boston lisp meetings/conferences In-Reply-To: References: <653bea160803081135j7db85d0i92fd49cb11c2a3b5@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803101033h73a10793vb9036dc176a208af@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803191857l6fa59895wad6e6a32780093e6@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803201050w76272fcek26222fc2253f85c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803232251h54bf7324se4c6c9590c59fb60@mail.gmail.com> I can wait for the topic, as long as I can announce it one month in advance. That said, I'm not certain what you mean by gradual type checking. If it's the same as the "soft typing" of Chez Scheme or CMUCL/SBCL, i.e. "statically typed if you can prove it, fall back to dynamic if you can't", then I kind of have the feeling that the general principle is already well understood by the community -- unless you're going to talk specifically about a cool advanced analysis technique, such as those produced by Olin Shivers and his students. That could make a nice 50' or longer talk, but it's a hard thing to talk about. CheneyMTA could make a cool 25' talk, or a nice 50' one if given deeper background or compared to other techniques. BTW, after talking to potential people, I've decided that the talk formats would be better 50'+Q&A for normal, 25'+Q&A for short, and 90'+Q&A for long. Indeed, 50'+Q&A seems to be the standard length for which those participating in academic conferences have already prepared speeches or for which they will be able to reuse new speeches. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Politicians are like rats. What they steal for themselves is minuscule compared to what they destroy getting it. On 23/03/2008, Elf wrote: > > question about my talk for the LUG. do you need a topic right now or can it > wait? we're starting to look into something really kinda cool (gradual > type checking - static/dynamic hybrid) so i may want to talk on that instead > of (or in addition to) cheneymta, or i can give two separate talks if youd > like? we're doing some interesting redesigns in the chicken world right now > so theres lots of fun theoretical things to talk about. From fahree at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 06:57:38 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:57:38 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Boston Lisp Meeting In-Reply-To: <653bea160803231207y633bf41ds78f83d62bb89ee78@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803221844x5ea1ea5md384b8ec0694ab87@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803222119w5c381bc2t403b41e41864b528@mail.gmail.com> <47E657D0.9070607@ieee.org> <653bea160803231207y633bf41ds78f83d62bb89ee78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <653bea160803232357v50792aap36f47d73a9714c36@mail.gmail.com> Dear Greg, I'm co-organizing a monthly Boston Lisp Meeting, and I would be honored to have you speak there on any topic of your choosing. See our call for speakers: http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html We usually meet on the last Monday of every month at 6pm, but we're flexible to accommodate the needs of speakers. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Consider algebra in XML: instead of (sin (+ x y)), sin(x+y) or x y + sin, you just use xy. From elf at ephemeral.net Mon Mar 24 08:09:51 2008 From: elf at ephemeral.net (Elf) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [boston-lisp-organizers] Re: query re: the boston lisp meetings/conferences In-Reply-To: <653bea160803232251h54bf7324se4c6c9590c59fb60@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160803081135j7db85d0i92fd49cb11c2a3b5@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803101033h73a10793vb9036dc176a208af@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803191857l6fa59895wad6e6a32780093e6@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803201050w76272fcek26222fc2253f85c7@mail.gmail.com> <653bea160803232251h54bf7324se4c6c9590c59fb60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Far? wrote: > I can wait for the topic, as long as I can announce it one month in advance. > > That said, I'm not certain what you mean by gradual type checking. If > it's the same as the "soft typing" of Chez Scheme or CMUCL/SBCL, i.e. > "statically typed if you can prove it, fall back to dynamic if you > can't", then I kind of have the feeling that the general principle is > already well understood by the community -- unless you're going to > talk specifically about a cool advanced analysis technique, such as > those produced by Olin Shivers and his students. That could make a > nice 50' or longer talk, but it's a hard thing to talk about. gradual type checking is a hybrid method conceived by siek and taha. im learning about it now, its quite interesting. i dont know if i could give a talk on it, yet. its something that ivan raikov and i were discussing earlier today. > > CheneyMTA could make a cool 25' talk, or a nice 50' one if given > deeper background or compared to other techniques. ive started putting together notes, so ill let you know about it. i was going to talk on it specifically as it applies to chicken, and some interesting properties and places to go with it. > > BTW, after talking to potential people, I've decided that the talk > formats would be better 50'+Q&A for normal, 25'+Q&A for short, and > 90'+Q&A for long. Indeed, 50'+Q&A seems to be the standard length for > which those participating in academic conferences have already > prepared speeches or for which they will be able to reuse new > speeches. > that makes good sense. i havent yet given any academic talks (well, besides a crap one about FUNK (functional fuzzer in scheme) to get my current (hopefully soon to be previous) job, which would be WAY under the level of people going to the lisp users group), so i have nothing prepared in advance. i should be able to make the next talk if my plane isnt running late ... ill be in milwaukee that weekend visiting my grandfather to take some pressure off my parents. -elf > [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] > Politicians are like rats. What they steal for themselves is minuscule > compared to what they destroy getting it. > > > > On 23/03/2008, Elf wrote: >> >> question about my talk for the LUG. do you need a topic right now or can it >> wait? we're starting to look into something really kinda cool (gradual >> type checking - static/dynamic hybrid) so i may want to talk on that instead >> of (or in addition to) cheneymta, or i can give two separate talks if youd >> like? we're doing some interesting redesigns in the chicken world right now >> so theres lots of fun theoretical things to talk about. >