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From evrim at core.gen.tr  Thu Jun 12 20:51:53 2008
From: evrim at core.gen.tr (Evrim Ulu)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:51:53 +0300
Subject: [Bese-devel] DOM Programming in Core-Server
Message-ID: <48518C69.6060001@core.gen.tr>

Hi,

A new document called "DOM Programming in Core Server" is released. 
We've summarized several new ideas in the article like first-class dom 
objects, rendering to markup and javascript, using core-search to 
manipulate dom structure and caching.

The document can be reached at:

http://labs.core.gen.tr/#domprogramming

Evrim.


From japhy at zenbe.com  Fri Jun 13 14:52:37 2008
From: japhy at zenbe.com (Maciej Pasternacki)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:52:37 +0200
Subject: [Bese-devel] Re: DOM Programming in Core-Server
In-Reply-To: <48518C69.6060001@core.gen.tr>
References: <48518C69.6060001@core.gen.tr>
Message-ID: <1213368756.8012.12.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 23:51 +0300, Evrim Ulu wrote:
> A new document called "DOM Programming in Core Server" is released. 
> We've summarized several new ideas in the article like first-class dom 
> objects, rendering to markup and javascript, using core-search to 
> manipulate dom structure and caching.
> 
> The document can be reached at:
> 
> http://labs.core.gen.tr/#domprogramming

?
Sounds really, really cool.  I've programmed a bit with Python's LL-XIST
(http://www.livinglogic.de/Python/xist/) which is similarly
object-based, and it was really sweet to seamlessly traverse, pass
around and organize HTML tree object representations.  ?This may be
really cool replacement or supplement to Yaclml.

Is it possible to use it as a separate function, outside of Core Server?
Did you consider factoring it out as a separate library?

Regards,
Maciej

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From evrim at core.gen.tr  Wed Jun 25 05:59:59 2008
From: evrim at core.gen.tr (Evrim Ulu)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:59:59 +0300
Subject: [Bese-devel] RFCs for imap and smtp
Message-ID: <4861DEDF.6020600@core.gen.tr>

Hi,

Two new rfc implementations are released.

RFC 2821 - SMTP - 
http://labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/rfc/2821.lisp
RFC 3501 - IMAP - 
http://labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/rfc/3501.lisp

They are based on Command framework at: 
http://labs.core.gen.tr/labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/commands/command.lisp

My colleage, Aycan, is working on a valid rfc 822/2822 implementation 
for parsing/rendering email messages. I hope we can handle all email 
related operations with Core Server soon.

Evrim.


From burban at opopop.net  Thu Jun 26 21:51:50 2008
From: burban at opopop.net (burban at opopop.net)
Date: 26 Jun 2008 21:51:50 +0000
Subject: [Bese-devel] RFCs for imap and smtp
In-Reply-To: <4861DEDF.6020600@core.gen.tr>
References: <4861DEDF.6020600@core.gen.tr>
Message-ID: <878wwrsw3t.fsf@default.opopop.net>

Evrim Ulu <evrim at core.gen.tr> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> Two new rfc implementations are released.
> 
> RFC 2821 - SMTP -
> http://labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/rfc/2821.lisp
> RFC 3501 - IMAP -
> http://labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/rfc/3501.lisp

You will end up with a nice subset of RFC in Lisp...  But out of
curiosity, what is the use of IMAP for ucw? (I understand that SMTP
can be used to implement some webmail application)

[...]

Regards.

-- 

B. Urban



From gwking at metabang.com  Fri Jun 27 02:48:39 2008
From: gwking at metabang.com (Gary King)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:48:39 -0400
Subject: [Bese-devel] RFCs for imap and smtp
In-Reply-To: <878wwrsw3t.fsf@default.opopop.net>
References: <4861DEDF.6020600@core.gen.tr> <878wwrsw3t.fsf@default.opopop.net>
Message-ID: <52D528EB-2292-438E-9F10-9F2D9FF451C0@metabang.com>

It's probably too late, but have you also looked at http://opensource.franz.com/postoffice/index.html

If nothing else, it make have some good ideas in it ...


On Jun 26, 2008, at 5:51 PM, burban at opopop.net wrote:

> Evrim Ulu <evrim at core.gen.tr> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Two new rfc implementations are released.
>>
>> RFC 2821 - SMTP -
>> http://labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/rfc/2821.lisp
>> RFC 3501 - IMAP -
>> http://labs.core.gen.tr/repos/core-server/src/rfc/3501.lisp
>
> You will end up with a nice subset of RFC in Lisp...  But out of
> curiosity, what is the use of IMAP for ucw? (I understand that SMTP
> can be used to implement some webmail application)
>
> [...]
>
> Regards.
>
> -- 
>
> B. Urban
>
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From evrim at core.gen.tr  Sun Jun 29 01:20:42 2008
From: evrim at core.gen.tr (Evrim Ulu)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:20:42 +0300
Subject: [Bese-devel] 4 more documents
Message-ID: <4866E36A.6080803@core.gen.tr>

Hi,


Document Updates:

- Core Streams - http://labs.core.gen.tr/#corestreams
- Streams DSL - http://labs.core.gen.tr/#grammar
- Parsing -  http://labs.core.gen.tr/#parser
- Rendering - http://labs.core.gen.tr/#render

RSS:

Also, there is a new repo rss feed via Yahoo Pipes, thanks to Aycan Irican.
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=8N68qnxA3RG2FF5QOTY80A&_render=rss

Planned Documents:

    * Database Programming with Core Server
    * Continuation based Web 1.0 Programming
    * Web 2.0 Components
    * Developing Applications with Web 1.0 Framework
    * Developing Applications with Web 2.0 Framework


Evrim.